1/2: QQ vs. limp/raise of a very tight player
 

No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00/$2.00

MP3 ($245.25) 8/5 over 45 hands
CO ($40.00)
Button ($392.07)
SB ($71.65)
BB ($200.00) (Hero)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
MP3 calls $2.00, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls $1.00, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $12.00</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises to $32.00</font>, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, Hero?

<font color="blue">What do you do here? I called. </font>

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ( $70 )
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets $52.00</font>, Hero?

<font color="blue">Should I lead into him?</font>

Re: 1/2: QQ vs. limp/raise of a very tight player
 

anyone?

Re: 1/2: QQ vs. limp/raise of a very tight player
 

ugh nasty. As played I would fold. I'm not sure if I'd do anything differently, it's a spot I've rarely seen

Re: 1/2: QQ vs. limp/raise of a very tight player
 

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ugh nasty. As played I would fold. I'm not sure if I'd do anything differently, it's a spot I've rarely seen

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also, i think leading is bad, you're not getting value from anything, and bluffing nothing.

Re: 1/2: QQ vs. limp/raise of a very tight player
 

Why not muck it preflop if you're going to c/f when you hit the overpair? - not that I think c/fing this flop is wrong, it's a nice play imo because he's basically telling you what he has. But even if you stack him every single time if you spike a Q it's still not incredibly profitable. If you're really calling just for set value here preflop it doesn't seem a good call. What if the flop brings no paintcards - like 3 5 9 rainbow - are you still c/fing - what I'm asking is if you think it's close enough for the possibility of JJ swings it to a fold. I'd like to know what more experienced players think of considering a pf fold against this super-nit. Tough hand.

Re: 1/2: QQ vs. limp/raise of a very tight player
 

of course, i did not call for set value only. the J is a bad card for me in two ways. first, JJ beats me, that's obvious. but second, it completely eliminates the possibility of getting called by a weaker pocket pair if I c/r.

Re: 1/2: QQ vs. limp/raise of a very tight player
 

So you're going for the crai on a ragged flop. But is this guy really calling it with JJ or less? Maybe we're giving him too much credit - do you have any specific reads other than preflop stats? Although I suppose it's difficult when he plays a hand an hour.

Re: 1/2: QQ vs. limp/raise of a very tight player
 

allin on the flop.

Re: 1/2: QQ vs. limp/raise of a very tight player
 

Could you explain that Orange because I can't see why you'ld recommend that.

Re: 1/2: QQ vs. limp/raise of a very tight player
 

oh man this is sick, don't even mind a pf fold here. i'd fold the flop as played