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08-04-2007, 08:03 PM
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sick JJ hand deep 10/20
Villain is 22/18. lots of history and 3/4/5beting light etc on various tables, although we've been kinda quiet last hour or so and I've been showing down goods a couple times(although far from set mining and he knows it). I dunno what else is important, but we've definitely been tangling A LOT and raising flop w/ nothing/floating with nothing etc is far from unheard of.
Oh yeah I'm running like 29/24 Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $10/$20 Blinds - 4 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter) SB: $8,431.00 BB: $1,317.84 Hero (UTG): $6,910.00 BTN: $1,910.00 Preflop: Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 Players) <font color="red">Hero raises to $70.00</font>, BTN folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $222.00</font>, BB folds, Hero calls $152.00 Flop: ($464) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players) <font color="red">SB bets $333.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $999.00</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $3,000.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero.... 
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#2
08-04-2007, 08:09 PM
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Re: sick JJ hand deep 10/20
vomit
the forum consensus always seems to be a fold in these type of spots, and I am always the one arguing for a call. But I think in this specific hand this is an obvious fold -Jeff
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#5
08-04-2007, 08:25 PM
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Re: sick JJ hand deep 10/20
I was sitting with you.
I would have folded imho, but it`s a tough one. He has at last AKs, right? TT would be easy, but with the possibility that he has TT it`s tough. You can`t fold out a better hand, all draws stay in with, so fold.
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#7
08-04-2007, 11:20 PM
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Re: sick JJ hand deep 10/20
Gross spot, I could go either way. Looks like a fold in most situations but you guys have a lot of history so he could 3 bet the flop with a wider range for value and with nothing.
Against a range of AA, TT, KQ, we have 38% equity, which is probably a little below what we need here to stack off. I didn't include any semibluffs or the chance of him overplaying something like AJ, or the possibility of total air. I imagine our equity is always above 35% against any reasonable range, which would mean shoving would probably not be a huge mistake no matter what. Folding is definitely fine though and I would probably fold to most straightforward players this deep. Interested to hear results.
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