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Old 09-22-2007, 08:33 PM
GiantBuddha GiantBuddha is offline
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Default QQ RR 4-ways preflop; 50NL

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP1 ($133.25)
MP2 ($29.25)
MP3 ($18.25) is 100/37/1 over 8 hands
CO ($49)
Button ($73.90) is 18/4/1 over 100 hands
SB ($55.40)
BB ($83.45) is 17/6/.8 over 90 hands
Hero ($53.70)
UTG+1 ($51.10)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP3 calls $2, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $6.5</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $6, Hero ...
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Old 09-22-2007, 08:45 PM
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Default Re: QQ RR 4-ways preflop; 50NL

You're either a big dog (v AA / KK) or a small favourite (v AK).

Fold, not the place for QQ. You also aren't closing the action, so unfortunately villian can also go all in making you fold / put you in a worse spot.
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Old 09-22-2007, 08:53 PM
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Default Re: QQ RR 4-ways preflop; 50NL

call
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Old 09-22-2007, 08:57 PM
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Default Re: QQ RR 4-ways preflop; 50NL

An ugly spot as Peleus says, cut your loses and wait for a better spot. Sucks to muck QQ preflop but [censored] happens.
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Old 09-22-2007, 09:05 PM
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Default Re: QQ RR 4-ways preflop; 50NL

probly going to get 4-1 odds.. I think i call
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Old 09-22-2007, 09:05 PM
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Default Re: QQ RR 4-ways preflop; 50NL

You have a weak/tight button reraising an UTG raiser. I think you can fold here.
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Old 09-22-2007, 09:20 PM
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Default Re: QQ RR 4-ways preflop; 50NL

The pot's offering 4:1 immediate odds, 5:1 if shorty comes in. If he shoves, that puts button to a decision before I have to decide (I would fold if button played). I only considered folding at all because of the volatile short stack behind me. The real consideration in my mind is calling for set value in a four way pot or trying to play some poker after the flop. 4-betting is probably awful here, though, and I don't see anyone advocating that.
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Old 09-22-2007, 09:46 PM
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Default Re: QQ RR 4-ways preflop; 50NL

This is a -EV call/4 bet against these players. Why get into a pot when you know your at best a 54% favorite? This is a cash game not a tourny right?
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Old 09-22-2007, 09:55 PM
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Because his 3-bet was too small and a fourth player came in giving me excellent odds to hit a set and stack someone with a very strong second best hand. I certainly don't want to play for stacks unimproved with this guy, though.
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Old 09-22-2007, 09:58 PM
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Default Re: QQ RR 4-ways preflop; 50NL

You can't fold here. Period.
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