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GiantBuddha 09-22-2007 08:33 PM

QQ RR 4-ways preflop; 50NL
 
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP1 ($133.25)
MP2 ($29.25)
MP3 ($18.25) is 100/37/1 over 8 hands
CO ($49)
Button ($73.90) is 18/4/1 over 100 hands
SB ($55.40)
BB ($83.45) is 17/6/.8 over 90 hands
Hero ($53.70)
UTG+1 ($51.10)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP3 calls $2, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $6.5</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $6, Hero ...

Peleus 09-22-2007 08:45 PM

Re: QQ RR 4-ways preflop; 50NL
 
You're either a big dog (v AA / KK) or a small favourite (v AK).

Fold, not the place for QQ. You also aren't closing the action, so unfortunately villian can also go all in making you fold / put you in a worse spot.

CalledDownLight 09-22-2007 08:53 PM

Re: QQ RR 4-ways preflop; 50NL
 
call

wako 09-22-2007 08:57 PM

Re: QQ RR 4-ways preflop; 50NL
 
An ugly spot as Peleus says, cut your loses and wait for a better spot. Sucks to muck QQ preflop but [censored] happens.

coordi 09-22-2007 09:05 PM

Re: QQ RR 4-ways preflop; 50NL
 
probly going to get 4-1 odds.. I think i call

mmctrab 09-22-2007 09:05 PM

Re: QQ RR 4-ways preflop; 50NL
 
You have a weak/tight button reraising an UTG raiser. I think you can fold here.

GiantBuddha 09-22-2007 09:20 PM

Re: QQ RR 4-ways preflop; 50NL
 
The pot's offering 4:1 immediate odds, 5:1 if shorty comes in. If he shoves, that puts button to a decision before I have to decide (I would fold if button played). I only considered folding at all because of the volatile short stack behind me. The real consideration in my mind is calling for set value in a four way pot or trying to play some poker after the flop. 4-betting is probably awful here, though, and I don't see anyone advocating that.

wako 09-22-2007 09:46 PM

Re: QQ RR 4-ways preflop; 50NL
 
This is a -EV call/4 bet against these players. Why get into a pot when you know your at best a 54% favorite? This is a cash game not a tourny right?

GiantBuddha 09-22-2007 09:55 PM

Re: QQ RR 4-ways preflop; 50NL
 
Because his 3-bet was too small and a fourth player came in giving me excellent odds to hit a set and stack someone with a very strong second best hand. I certainly don't want to play for stacks unimproved with this guy, though.

CalledDownLight 09-22-2007 09:58 PM

Re: QQ RR 4-ways preflop; 50NL
 
You can't fold here. Period.


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