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Old 07-03-2007, 03:47 PM
luckychewy luckychewy is offline
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Default Re: 5 handed ftp 55k final table hand

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In the hand in question, 3/bet call for sure. 77/88 are def getting pushed, AJ lots of the time and KQ too.

In general, I'm not a huge fan of flatting in spots like this. It could just be that people give me less respect than most, but I find myself getting pushed back on here by a range wide enough that calling the 4 bet is def correct. Also, my postflop play isn't that great, but don't you find it hard to play these pots when you miss the flop?

Btw, I am "mhrep." Sick beat [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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well i def don't find it unlikely that ppl push back at you lighter...you seem to play pretty damn aggro. and maybe they push back light to me as well, either way in the future i will be 3-bet/calling here as it seems the general consensus is to do so.

wtf does mhrep mean btw?

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I would have just gone allin PF with a hand like AQ and other mediocre hands, while MAYBE raising less with my biggest hands and my bluff hands. Mainly I want to discourage pocket pairs from calling so I'll do go allin, but also for balance I'll do it with JJ-88 type hands. You are a little deeper for this than I'd like, but I think 30x BB just makes the cut. I just don't see the point of raising 1/3rd of your stack.

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i think these are all valid points.

how about if we are 40 deep everyone? i think that changes things at least a little bit.

thx for the responses so far everyone.
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Old 07-03-2007, 04:46 PM
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Default Re: 5 handed ftp 55k final table hand

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In the hand in question, 3/bet call for sure. 77/88 are def getting pushed, AJ lots of the time and KQ too.

In general, I'm not a huge fan of flatting in spots like this. It could just be that people give me less respect than most, but I find myself getting pushed back on here


by a range wide enough that calling the 4 bet is def correct. Also, my postflop play isn't that great, but don't you find it hard to play these pots when you miss the flop?

Btw, I am "mhrep." Sick beat [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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well i def don't find it unlikely that ppl push back at you lighter...you seem to play pretty damn aggro. and maybe they push back light to me as well, either way in the future i will be 3-bet/calling here as it seems the general consensus is to do so.

wtf does mhrep mean btw?

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I would have just gone allin PF with a hand like AQ and other mediocre hands, while MAYBE raising less with my biggest hands and my bluff hands. Mainly I want to discourage pocket pairs from calling so I'll do go allin, but also for balance I'll do it with JJ-88 type hands. You are a little deeper for this than I'd like, but I think 30x BB just makes the cut. I just don't see the point of raising 1/3rd of your stack.

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i think these are all valid points.

how about if we are 40 deep everyone? i think that changes things at least a little bit.

thx for the responses so far everyone.

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40 BBs I reraise to like 10x the BB and then figure out what to do if they push.
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Old 07-03-2007, 05:37 PM
Ship Ship McGipp Ship Ship McGipp is offline
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Default Re: 5 handed ftp 55k final table hand

WOW i such at math and making arguements but i dont' believe shoving here with AQ can POSSBLY be right, or better than a smaller 3-bet.

i would probably flat here like 75% of the time, and when i do 3-bet, i do so even smaller- to like 48k, or something.

regardless, i don't know that it's bad to 3-bet/decide, but i'd much much rather 3-bet a range of mmonsters that i'm snapp calling a shove with and air with these stack szies, i'm rpetty sure i'm right but ask james he';ll know

actually, i'm pretty sure it is bad to 3-bet/tank. like not good, imo, and this deep, i would not be looking to get it in that fast against someone who isn't no the button
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Old 07-03-2007, 12:24 PM
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Default Re: 5 handed ftp 55k final table hand

I play it the same way. I busted 10th running AQ into AK 6 handed then QK vs. AQ [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] "Shipitoverhere"

obv run hot when it matters. [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]
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