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Old 09-30-2007, 08:19 PM
Noam Chomsky Noam Chomsky is offline
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Default Value bet gone wrong

Villain seems like a fairly solid tag. 20/15/3
No major history or anything.

pf, sometimes I three bet, sometimes I fold, here I called.

On the turn, I generally bet, here I decided to check as I really felt like he was giving up.

I dunno, the size of his river bet threw me off a little so I opted for a smaller value raise and then...........

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (http://www.legopoker.com http://www.legopoker.com/hh)

SB: $173.30
BB: $144.80
UTG: $296.55
MP: $204.75
CO: $340.55
Hero (BTN): $351.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt 8c 9c (6 Players)
UTG raises to $8.00, 2 folds, Hero calls $8.00, 2 folds

Flop: ($19) Qh 5c 8s (2 Players)
UTG bets $13.00, Hero calls $13.00

Turn: ($45) 8d (2 Players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

River: ($45) Js (2 Players)
UTG bets $32.00, Hero raises to $70.00, UTG raises all-in to $275.55, Hero?
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Old 09-30-2007, 08:23 PM
dragonystic dragonystic is offline
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Default Re: Value bet gone wrong

150bb deep, i like the preflop call. i like a turn bet though. its unlikely he'll figure you for an 8 if he has a hand to go with. if he doesn't, you aren't out of much.

as played, river looks like a fold. QQ/JJ are most likely candidates. i dont see him 3betting the river with an overpair. fold.
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Old 09-30-2007, 09:04 PM
RUDIKULOUS RUDIKULOUS is offline
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Default Re: Value bet gone wrong

Bet turn prob fold river.
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Old 09-30-2007, 09:23 PM
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Default Re: Value bet gone wrong

turn is wtf...

if he's giving up on turn, he'll generally not call a river bet.
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Old 09-30-2007, 09:27 PM
Cryptorchild Cryptorchild is offline
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Default Re: Value bet gone wrong

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if he's giving up on turn, he'll generally not call a river bet.

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But he might bet air on river if he checks, that he otherwise was giving up on.
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Old 09-30-2007, 09:31 PM
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eh...if he's thinking, i think that check turn/bet river as a bluff is usually pretty bad. it depends on river of course, but in general, i think most tags will double barrel instead of check turn/bet river as a bluff.

now if he's vb-ing, thats completely different. but sometimes i'll float these boards and ill certainly bet when i hit.
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Old 09-30-2007, 09:43 PM
vimpan vimpan is offline
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Default Re: Value bet gone wrong

Bet turn to balance your floats and obv. for value,
river is a fold since I canīt see an std TAG doing rhis with worse!
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