25nl interesting AJ hand

prodonkey · #1 02-28-2007, 10:27 AM

Full Tilt Poker
$0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Ring Game
6 Players
LegoPoker Hand Converter

Stack Sizes
SB: $23.15
BB: $24.75
UTG: $18.15
Hero (MP): $24.50
CO: $20.85
BTN: $24.90

Preflop: J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($0.35, 6 players)
UTG folds, Hero raises to $1, CO folds, BTN folds, SB folds, BB calls $0.75

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($2.1, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.50, BB calls $1.50

Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] [A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]] ($5.1, 2 players)
BB bets $3, Hero calls $3

River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] [K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]] ($11.1, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $5.30, BB raises all in to $19.50

What do you do here and why?

Villan is 30/10/1 over 120 hands

bsheck · #2 02-28-2007, 10:31 AM

Pretty easy fold. He has at least aces up.

prodonkey · #3 02-28-2007, 09:28 PM

FOld? We don't fold! I insta called and took him to valuetown with his A8o

TheSalche · #4 02-28-2007, 11:32 PM

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FOld? We don't fold! I insta called and took him to valuetown with his A8o

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good thing you asked for advice and then rejected it immediately, since you are already pro I'll stake you

prodonkey · #5 03-01-2007, 12:33 AM

Why would I need staked?

"While I do not normally question pooh-bah's, I am not sure I like raising the turn. If I'm villan and am sitting on a flopped 2 pr or straight, I bet into the A-high turn, hoping to get raised and stacking Ax (where x = J,Q, or K) here. Am I off base here? Maybe I'm just seeing monsters and forgetting that this is 25NL (which is what I play).

And, since OP did not raise the turn and villan checks the river, I'm thinking this is a great value bet opportunity. His c/r on the river seems real fishy as hero showed no aggression on either the flop (just a CB) or turn. Seems real fishy. I think I become Mr. PayoffMonkey on the river as well.

Please, help me learn."

Here is my thinking.. I raised preflop.. and c-bet the flop.. donkey calls with his ace rag and spikes it on the turn thinking it's good so he bets out. Am I going to stack Ax if I move in here? Maybe? I have no idea really. For those that said raise the turn I AGREE.. I should have done that!

But lets look at the river check raise... what hand is donkey doing this with? 78? Would you honestly check the river with 78? My call on the turn signifies that I may indeed have an ace, but am I going to bet weak stuff on the river? I'd check behind most of the time and win in showdown. I thought hmm.. maybe donkee has K6 and spiked 2 pair on river.. but he wouldn't bet the turn with K6. An awfully played set? Possibly.. but honestly I didn't think that K changed anything, so it was either a weaker hand than mine or a badly played 78.. so I called.

Thremp · #6 03-01-2007, 02:12 AM

Bomb the turn. Fold river. I don't mind the vbet.

TheGrifter · #7 02-28-2007, 09:35 PM

Raise the turn.

He may have a combo draw in which case you have him crushed and he isn't folding it.

The way you played it you're going to have a hard time getting paid on the river when a diamond hits.

I'd check behind on the river.

matv · #8 02-28-2007, 09:49 PM

I think grifter is spot-on

I also fold to that river CR.

SirFelixCat · #9 02-28-2007, 09:52 PM

While I do not normally question pooh-bah's, I am not sure I like raising the turn. If I'm villan and am sitting on a flopped 2 pr or straight, I bet into the A-high turn, hoping to get raised and stacking Ax (where x = J,Q, or K) here. Am I off base here? Maybe I'm just seeing monsters and forgetting that this is 25NL (which is what I play).

And, since OP did not raise the turn and villan checks the river, I'm thinking this is a great value bet opportunity. His c/r on the river seems real fishy as hero showed no aggression on either the flop (just a CB) or turn. Seems real fishy. I think I become Mr. PayoffMonkey on the river as well.

Please, help me learn.

Bad Beat Maker · #10 02-28-2007, 10:26 PM

So many things could have happened there. With 30/10 he could possibly be on 78 suited hoping to hit and stack you, in which case he hit.

Anyways, I think your call here, longterm, is a bad one. He could have had alot of hands that beat you there.