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How would you play KK in this situation?
Hi guys,
I need your advice here. Last night I entered a MTT with 66 starters. After about 1 hour of play the following situation occurred: 9 players at the table. SB (Villian) 1900 chips - has a pretty loose image. Tries to enter any cheap pot with almost any two cards. BB (Hero) 850 chips - has a very tight image, hasn't played a single hand yet UTG 1700 chips - conservative player UTG+1 1100 chips - mix of loose and conservative MP1 700 chips - tight MP2 400 chips - pretty loose MP3 - 800 chips - loose LP1 - 1500 chips - tight Button - 1100 chips - loose Blinds are 20/40 UTG to LP1 all fold Button limps in SB calls Hero finds K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] How would you play them? Check? Raise? If so, how much? (I will tell you later how I played it, just want some information on how you guys would play it...) |
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Re: How would you play KK in this situation?
considering the loose sb and button i would make it 160 and expect a call from either of them
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Re: How would you play KK in this situation?
make it 150
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Re: How would you play KK in this situation?
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make it 150 [/ QUOTE ] |
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Re: How would you play KK in this situation?
You all would raise, even though you have an extremely tight image? Interesting.
Ok, here's how I played it. I thought, if I raise, everyone will fold because of my image, so I checked. The flop was 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] The SB raised 500 I thought for a moment (no flush draw, maybe a straight draw). Again I figured, if I reraise him, he will probably fold and after all, I want to extract as many chips from him as possible. I actually just called. Button folds. Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] SB goes all-in. Basically the same thought process came along: No straight draw, maybe a flush draw. I knew him to be pretty loose and would expect him to do a play like this with any pair, so I called. He turns over 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] The River is 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and my Kings hold so I can double up. I asked him later, how he would have reacted to a raise. He said, he would have thrown his hand as far away as possible, because of my tight image. But because I only called his raises, he thought I was on a draw and wanted to make that expensive. |
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Re: How would you play KK in this situation?
If he had turned over 89o this post would have had a completely different tone.
So we learned something tonight: there is more than one way to be results-oriented. |
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Re: How would you play KK in this situation?
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If he had turned over 89o this post would have had a completely different tone. So we learned something tonight: there is more than one way to be results-oriented. [/ QUOTE ] True! But what it showed to me, was that sometimes gut feeling is enough to justify a play like this and that slowplaying can be a very good strategy when you have an extremely tight image. |
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Re: How would you play KK in this situation?
I read the whole thread before replying but I still think you should have raised. 1) they might not have folded. if they're loose, they want to see a flop. 2) if you're so tight that a raise generates folds then don't play so tight 3) since they're so loose you're going to have no idea where you're at if you don't raise. Unless you flop a set, you're not going to know if you're ahead or not. What if the flop had an A?
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Re: How would you play KK in this situation?
lmao @ the guy betting 500 into a pot of 120
op, you played this hand badly at every step and got lucky |
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Re: How would you play KK in this situation?
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The SB raised 500 I thought for a moment (no flush draw, maybe a straight draw). Again I figured, if I reraise him, he will probably fold and after all, I want to extract as many chips from him as possible. I actually just called. [/ QUOTE ] If my arithmetic is correct, you called for 500 of your remaining 810 chips. There is no way he'd fold for 310 more into a pot of 1400+ on that flop with two cards to come. As for your primary question, I agree with everyone else. Your EV can't possibly be going up by checking preflop against loose players. |
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