Ks preflop decision

ycjason · #1 08-05-2007, 10:23 PM

6 handed table at 2/4, folds to CO open for 12, button raise to 40, and you have Ks on sb, assuming both CO and button are decent TAGs and everyone has 100xbb. What's the best line to extract here. This seems to me there is not way to underep my hand here, either I call or raise it should seem like As/Ks, and in fact, that's pretty much the only hands that I would do this with the exception of maybe AKs sometimes. So I usually just push here and get everyone to fold or get As to call me. Is there a better way to play this?

Teh1337zor · #2 08-05-2007, 10:24 PM

when you 4 bet you dont have to push.......

ycjason · #3 08-05-2007, 10:41 PM

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when you 4 bet you dont have to push.......

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doesn't that look even more scary to any decent player?

FionnMac · #4 08-05-2007, 11:01 PM

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when you 4 bet you dont have to push.......

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doesn't that look even more scary to any decent player?

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So do it with air too.

ycjason · #5 08-05-2007, 11:04 PM

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when you 4 bet you dont have to push.......

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doesn't that look even more scary to any decent player?

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So do it with air too.

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great point, I was just thinking about that maybe I should do that sometimes

wpr101 · #6 08-05-2007, 11:11 PM

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doesn't that look even more scary to any decent player?

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So do it with air too.

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Does this play work well for you? I usually never bluff once there is a raise and a rr, but I have been playing a lot of full ring lately.

DrMagic · #7 08-05-2007, 11:45 PM

Yeah thats why full ring sucks. And to OP, 4bet lighter occasionally as fionn says.

FionnMac · #8 08-05-2007, 11:47 PM

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doesn't that look even more scary to any decent player?

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So do it with air too.

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I can't say for sure whether it works well since a lot if it is metagame/balancing crap, but in theory it works since i do it (at least some of the time) with AA/KK as well as J9s/A4s/whatever.

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6 handed table at 2/4, folds to CO open for 12, button raise to 40, and you have Ks on sb, assuming both CO and button are decent TAGs and everyone has 100xbb

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If you don't have history of doing this, then making it $120 looks super strong. Obv don't do it if either are nits or donks, but against 22/19's or whatever, i think this works very well