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ycjason 08-05-2007 10:23 PM

Ks preflop decision
 
6 handed table at 2/4, folds to CO open for 12, button raise to 40, and you have Ks on sb, assuming both CO and button are decent TAGs and everyone has 100xbb. What's the best line to extract here. This seems to me there is not way to underep my hand here, either I call or raise it should seem like As/Ks, and in fact, that's pretty much the only hands that I would do this with the exception of maybe AKs sometimes. So I usually just push here and get everyone to fold or get As to call me. Is there a better way to play this?

Teh1337zor 08-05-2007 10:24 PM

Re: Ks preflop decision
 
when you 4 bet you dont have to push.......

ycjason 08-05-2007 10:41 PM

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when you 4 bet you dont have to push.......

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doesn't that look even more scary to any decent player?

FionnMac 08-05-2007 11:01 PM

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when you 4 bet you dont have to push.......

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doesn't that look even more scary to any decent player?

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So do it with air too.

ycjason 08-05-2007 11:04 PM

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when you 4 bet you dont have to push.......

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doesn't that look even more scary to any decent player?

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So do it with air too.

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great point, I was just thinking about that maybe I should do that sometimes

wpr101 08-05-2007 11:11 PM

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when you 4 bet you dont have to push.......

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doesn't that look even more scary to any decent player?

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So do it with air too.

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Does this play work well for you? I usually never bluff once there is a raise and a rr, but I have been playing a lot of full ring lately.

DrMagic 08-05-2007 11:45 PM

Re: Ks preflop decision
 
Yeah thats why full ring sucks. And to OP, 4bet lighter occasionally as fionn says.

FionnMac 08-05-2007 11:47 PM

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when you 4 bet you dont have to push.......

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doesn't that look even more scary to any decent player?

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So do it with air too.

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I can't say for sure whether it works well since a lot if it is metagame/balancing crap, but in theory it works since i do it (at least some of the time) with AA/KK as well as J9s/A4s/whatever.

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6 handed table at 2/4, folds to CO open for 12, button raise to 40, and you have Ks on sb, assuming both CO and button are decent TAGs and everyone has 100xbb

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If you don't have history of doing this, then making it $120 looks super strong. Obv don't do it if either are nits or donks, but against 22/19's or whatever, i think this works very well


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