Stars $55K: Overplayed AJ on flop?

bluesbassman · #1 09-27-2007, 05:56 PM

Hand from $55 Stars $55K guaranteed. No read on the villain. I had been card dead and hadn't played a hand the last few orbits.

Did I play this too fast on the flop? Now what's my line on the turn? Villain only has about 1900 chips left and is probably pot committed.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t300 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB (t11590)
BB (t7135)
UTG (t6034)
UTG+1 (t3946)
MP1 (t4875)
MP2 (t8525)
Hero (t11251)
CO (t17105)
Button (t4239)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
4 folds, Hero raises to t800, 1 fold, Button calls t800, 2 folds.

Flop: (t1800) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets t1500, Button calls t1500.

Turn: (t4800) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero ??

Sherman · #2 09-27-2007, 06:43 PM

Check/call or move all-in yourself. I'd check/call if I thought he were likely to bluff with a missed straight draw (repping the flush) but fold if I shoved. Otherwise, I shove and hope for the best. You are still ahead of AT and a OESD.

Not much I can see you doing here other than changing your commitment plan PF based on your opponents.

levAA · #3 09-28-2007, 04:14 AM

He invests only 7% of his stack preflop, so i don't think he has passed the commitment threshold.

I think the main question is if he is committed on the flop and should bet it or check it.

As he wasn't reraised I think he is in front and committed, so I would bet the flop. I would still bet the turn as he is still in front of villains range - so I think a shove is right here (with already 3 spades on the board).

black666 · #4 09-28-2007, 09:51 AM

Looks super standard. You raised with a good hand, c-bet a perfect flop and on the turn the money goes in no matter what.

If the button called your 1.500 bet on the flop with just a flushdraw and a stack of 3.400, more power to him.

arrrrrin.

Sherman · #5 09-28-2007, 10:55 AM

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Uh...use effective stacks. Villain has ~20% of his stack in PF. I think we are well passed the commitment threshold.

RonFezBuddy · #6 09-28-2007, 11:13 AM

Go for the pot. He probably has Ax. There's enough in the pot to justify it.

As far as the flop bet, you made him pay improper odds for a flush draw, which is all you can do, and he called. And if he has the flush he paid too much for it.

tomek322 · #7 09-28-2007, 11:15 AM

CRAI

levAA · #8 09-28-2007, 11:30 AM

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He invests only 7% of his stack preflop, so i don't think he has passed the commitment threshold.

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Uh...use effective stacks. Villain has ~20% of his stack in PF. I think we are well passed the commitment threshold.

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You're right sherman but he can't know who will enter the pot when he raises, so you can't fold everytime when a shortstack sits behind you - CO and SB were bigstacks like him. Here it was button who made a mistake flat calling this imo.

After the call the threshold was passed obv.

bluesbassman · #9 09-29-2007, 04:16 AM

Thanks for the comments everyone. Seems the consensus is that I played the hand okay, and that the money is going in on the turn.

In the actual hand, I shoved the turn, and villain flipped over AA for top set. Just wanted to make sure there was no way to reasonably avoid this by shutting it down.

RonFezBuddy · #10 09-29-2007, 11:15 AM

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Thanks for the comments everyone. Seems the consensus is that I played the hand okay, and that the money is going in on the turn.

In the actual hand, I shoved the turn, and villain flipped over AA for top set. Just wanted to make sure there was no way to reasonably avoid this by shutting it down.

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