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04-03-2007, 10:29 PM
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Re: High Stakes Poker...Ivey Vs. Booth
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] calling this with 2 kings is god awful [/ QUOTE ] against 95% of players yes, against Brad it's standard [/ QUOTE ] this is brad's standard play with AA. [/ QUOTE ] this is brad's standard play w/ a wide range including hands ahead of and behind KK. 
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04-03-2007, 10:31 PM
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Re: High Stakes Poker...Ivey Vs. Booth
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] calling this with 2 kings is god awful [/ QUOTE ] against 95% of players yes, against Brad it's standard [/ QUOTE ] this is brad's standard play with AA. [/ QUOTE ] this is brad's standard play w/ a wide range including hands ahead of and behind KK. [/ QUOTE ] no it's not
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04-04-2007, 01:28 AM
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Re: High Stakes Poker...Ivey Vs. Booth
This is why I hate live NL cash games. You can play well all day and then get into a super deep ugly spot like this where the decision is equivalent to a weeks worth of grinding.
I would also imagine that its pretty hard to just find another 300k to play with if Phil loses the pot. I mean I know its Phil Ivey but still coming up with that kind of cash before the game ends has to be a pain in the ass. There was a hand almost exactly like this posted here a few months ago. The hero had KK and I think it was a 98x flop where the villain pushed for about 300 BB. Just about everyone said to fold. I remember even one poster saying that the hero shouldn't have re-raised KK preflop and gotten himself into this spot.
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04-04-2007, 01:45 AM
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Re: High Stakes Poker...Ivey Vs. Booth
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This is why I hate live NL cash games. You can play well all day and then get into a super deep ugly spot like this where the decision is equivalent to a weeks worth of grinding. I would also imagine that its pretty hard to just find another 300k to play with if Phil loses the pot. I mean I know its Phil Ivey but still coming up with that kind of cash before the game ends has to be a pain in the ass. There was a hand almost exactly like this posted here a few months ago. The hero had KK and I think it was a 98x flop where the villain pushed for about 300 BB. Just about everyone said to fold. I remember even one poster saying that the hero shouldn't have re-raised KK preflop and gotten himself into this spot. [/ QUOTE ] This is why you dont sit with 300k unless you are prepared to lose it. If Phil wasnt prepared to make big calls like this, perhaps he should have bought in for 100k instead.
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#7
04-04-2007, 09:53 AM
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Re: High Stakes Poker...Ivey Vs. Booth
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[ QUOTE ] This is why I hate live NL cash games. You can play well all day and then get into a super deep ugly spot like this where the decision is equivalent to a weeks worth of grinding. I would also imagine that its pretty hard to just find another 300k to play with if Phil loses the pot. I mean I know its Phil Ivey but still coming up with that kind of cash before the game ends has to be a pain in the ass. There was a hand almost exactly like this posted here a few months ago. The hero had KK and I think it was a 98x flop where the villain pushed for about 300 BB. Just about everyone said to fold. I remember even one poster saying that the hero shouldn't have re-raised KK preflop and gotten himself into this spot. [/ QUOTE ] This is why you dont sit with 300k unless you are prepared to lose it. If Phil wasnt prepared to make big calls like this, perhaps he should have bought in for 100k instead. [/ QUOTE ] Lol, I'm not accusing Ivey of playing scared. I'm just saying since losing 300k most likely means he's done for the night or would have to buy back in short (short as in 150 BB or something) a fold might have a higher EV for the hand itself but a worse EV for the session. Its like the same reason you avoid coin-flips in the first stages of a donkament.
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#8
04-04-2007, 12:57 PM
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Re: High Stakes Poker...Ivey Vs. Booth
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] This is why I hate live NL cash games. You can play well all day and then get into a super deep ugly spot like this where the decision is equivalent to a weeks worth of grinding. I would also imagine that its pretty hard to just find another 300k to play with if Phil loses the pot. I mean I know its Phil Ivey but still coming up with that kind of cash before the game ends has to be a pain in the ass. There was a hand almost exactly like this posted here a few months ago. The hero had KK and I think it was a 98x flop where the villain pushed for about 300 BB. Just about everyone said to fold. I remember even one poster saying that the hero shouldn't have re-raised KK preflop and gotten himself into this spot. [/ QUOTE ] This is why you dont sit with 300k unless you are prepared to lose it. If Phil wasnt prepared to make big calls like this, perhaps he should have bought in for 100k instead. [/ QUOTE ] Lol, I'm not accusing Ivey of playing scared. I'm just saying since losing 300k most likely means he's done for the night or would have to buy back in short (short as in 150 BB or something) a fold might have a higher EV for the hand itself but a worse EV for the session. Its like the same reason you avoid coin-flips in the first stages of a donkament. [/ QUOTE ] I would think buying back in would be the last thing on his mind. Even if he didn't have more cash on him I'd be blown away if someone wouldn't give him a loan.
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