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Old 05-08-2006, 02:44 PM
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Old 05-08-2006, 02:54 PM
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Default Re: Hand reading 101: Most common & exploitable reads?

Most often in a raised pot:
OOP player minbets flop with two-flush on the board, calls raise. Player comes alive when flush card hits on turn or river = insta-fold
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Old 05-08-2006, 02:57 PM
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I like the guys who will almost always bluff the river if checked to, usually with a busted draw or middle pair/some other weak made hand they have been calling down with. These guys are ATM's, seek them out, and let them hang themselves every time on the river.
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Old 05-09-2006, 02:12 AM
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Nice thread. Most of the fish know these as well and they work nicely when reversed. They'll give action all night if they think they have one of these on you.

Limp reraise preflop is great with speculatives. I love the check call check minraise bluff. Even check\minraise check\minraise against a solid player... they freak. Never seen one stick around [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] Flop minbet into a crowd as a 'steal' works nicely too when you've hit. Tourney guys have been putting people in to the penny forever, with and without the goods. I pull the donk 'I just woke up with the flush' as well.

I'm always looking for the check/call lead hard vs. check/call lead weak to push off. Not hard to pick up on when people size bets to their hand strength either.

The timing based reads seem tough to me. With bad players and multi-tablers in the mix these lose value. Plus every novice book and site mentions these. If they are good and go in the tank... how do you know if they want to look weak, or are really thinking... I'm looking for something additional.

Chasers, one-barrellers, habitual bluffers, stealers, overcallers, nits, table coaches, bad lags. Very best are the guys that think you are 'SO EASY TO READ'. They'll fold to trash all night. Easy to spot. Easy to kill.

Heh. Love the 'float special deluxe'. nh

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Old 05-09-2006, 02:22 AM
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Default Re: Hand reading 101: Most common & exploitable reads?

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anyone who bets your stack exactly to the pennies = monster.



[/ QUOTE ]However, I have also done it on a bluff. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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I do this often as a bluff and it's rarely called. If I'm called and I showdown air then I do it again when I DO have a monster and almost always get paid.

Someone that does this but leaves you with 10c or so behind is almost always a monster - the old "busfare home" trick.

Edit: It helps a lot to know as well exactly what the villain considers a "monster" I just picked someguy off who pulled the busfare home trick on me who had AA on a scary board that I flopped a straight on - luvly - I liked him [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 05-09-2006, 03:08 AM
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Default Re: Hand reading 101: Most common & exploitable reads?

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Smooth call flop, minraise turn = no less than two pair

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this almost always holds true and saves me a lot of money - but i think the most profitable reads are the ones that get us value on our big hands.

learning how certain people play top pair and whether they can or cannot get away from it has been huge for me.
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Old 05-09-2006, 03:23 AM
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Default Re: Hand reading 101: Most common & exploitable reads?

Insta-checking on the flop usually means weakness. I always worry, though, that some tricky player will do this to induce a bet and then checkraise me. But if I know they're fishy, I trust that read.

I love it when I find out a given villain can't fold a gutshot draw or a small pocket pair postflop.
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Old 05-09-2006, 12:46 PM
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Default Re: Hand reading 101: Most common & exploitable reads?

To bump this, and also to add mine (most profitable ones have already been mentioned):

when you know the guy's a multi-tabler and he takes a long time then checks, he's uninterested in the hand and didn't notice it. If HU, the pot is yours.
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Old 05-09-2006, 01:34 PM
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Default Re: Hand reading 101: Most common & exploitable reads?

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To bump this, and also to add mine (most profitable ones have already been mentioned):

when you know the guy's a multi-tabler and he takes a long time then checks, he's uninterested in the hand and didn't notice it. If HU, the pot is yours.

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this is really really dangerous, sometimes I take a lot of time because I'm simply busy elsewhere, I may very well have the nuts on your table.
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