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Old 08-22-2007, 01:27 AM
JackWhite JackWhite is offline
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It was zero through the stem cell bill in September, 2006, two months before the Democrats became the majority. Since then, he's threatened to veto or actually vetoed pretty much every single bill that's passed Congress.


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I looked on Wiki and they said it was 3. Two stem cell bills and the Iraq bill. What are all the other bills that he has vetoed that Wiki didn't list?
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Old 08-22-2007, 01:31 AM
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That and a president who whips out a veto pen for anything remotely bipartisan.

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What planet do you guys live on? You are complaining about George W. Bush vetoing too many pieces of legislation? Hasn't he vetoed...like 2 or 3 bills in 6+ years?

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It was zero through the stem cell bill in September, 2006, two months before the Democrats became the majority. Since then, he's threatened to veto or actually vetoed pretty much every single bill that's passed Congress.

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And this is bad why?
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Old 08-22-2007, 07:41 AM
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The corporate press is going to sabotage the Dems every step of the way -- just as they have done for thirty years running.

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ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 08-22-2007, 07:48 AM
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The corporate press is going to sabotage the Dems every step of the way -- just as they have done for thirty years running.

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*cough* *cough*

Corporate "Press"??? As in newspaper "press"??? I've seen a lot of Right Wing info, but not from our Nations so-called newspaper "journalist". You talkin' WSJ type of press or which? Good Morning America? NBC/ABC/CBS news stations? I'll concede Fox to ya...

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The press is right wing and sabotages democrats.... now I've heard it all.

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He didn't actually call the press right wing, he called it pro-corporation. Not the same thing, and he's correct in this. The source of his delusion is believing that the Democratic Party is less pro-corporation than the media when they are actually more. The media is liberal biased, but it's also pro-corporation biased, which is why many anti-corporation type liberals completely fail to see the liberal bias in the media, because to them being pro-corporation is anti-liberal to the point that things like supporting abortion and gay rights and opposing the death penalty, etc, seem irrelevant.

In other words, the media is liberal capitalists and all the liberal socialists see any capitalist as being anti-liberal fascists. The media is pretty close to in step with the Democratic Party line, but many Democratic supporters think the Democratic Party line is much more socialist than it really is.
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Old 08-22-2007, 08:48 AM
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CNN will broadcast wall-to-wall weather reports, Paris Hilton life-histories, OJ Simpson and dogfighting verdicts rather than investigate Bush, Iraq, Halliburton and domestic wiretapping -- all of which would risk genuinely upsetting the apple cart for the upper class.

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This is true for all news channels. It sells advertising, as that is what viewers tune in to watch. Give them some good footage on a storm ripping thru Mexico and they can't get enough.

Watch Lou Dobbs, 6pm - 7pm. He rips into everyone in government every single day.

I have DVR, where I can record two channels at once. I am recording both FOX and CNN from 6-7 and can watch both 1 hr programs in less than 1 1/2 hrs by ff thru commercials, if I watch both channels coverage of the same topic. When times like now, where the storm ripping thru Mexico is top billing, it only takes an hr to watch both programs.

For the most part, the news is nothing but hype and gossip news, but Dobbs is hated by those in govt. more than any other news anchor. Therefore, he's doing it right more than anyone else.
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Old 08-22-2007, 09:08 AM
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One viewing of The Daily Show tells us all we need to know about congress. They're all crazy, they're all fanatic and they all have the integrity of an emu.

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Jon is a comedic entertainer. Nobody in their right mind, makes decisions based upon the information they receive while being entertained. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I watch Jon to be entertained. I luv it when he pokes fun.

He's a real funny guy and he'll be in the funny biz for a long time. HEHE.
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Old 08-22-2007, 12:18 PM
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Glenn Greenwald covers this subject very well in his blog entry for today, Why is the Democratic Congress so unpopular? (I think it's a must-read for anyone interested in this kind of stuff.)

The Democratic Congress has such a low approval rating among primarily because Democratic voters disapprove of their performance since taking over.

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Since Democrats took over Congress in January, there have been three major attributes characterizing their conduct: (1) a failure to stop or restrict the war in Iraq; (2) a general failure/unwillingness to stop Bush on much of anything else of significance (FISA, a failure to reverse any of the excesses of the GOP Congress, such as the Military Commissions Act, lack of limits on his ability to attack Iran, etc.); and (3) numerous investigations, sometimes flashly but thus far inconsequential. There is no rational way to argue that the numerous investigations (item (3)) are responsible for Congressional unpopularity given how overwhelmingly Americans want Congressional investigations of the administration.

Thus, the only rational conclusion is that Congress is so unpopular, particularly among Democrats, because of their ongoing capitulations to the Bush administration, their failure to place any limits on his Iraq policy, and their general inability/refusal to serve as a meaningful check on the administration. Democrats and independents overwhelmingly dislike the President. Thus, the weaker Congress is in defying the President, the more unpopular Congress becomes.

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Old 08-22-2007, 07:21 PM
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Clash beat me to it.

Also its funny, even with the horribly low approval ratings, Democrats are expected to add 2-6 Senate seats and 5-15 House seats next election(Of course this can change, but its for now).
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Old 08-22-2007, 08:45 PM
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The press is right wing and sabotages democrats.... now I've heard it all.

They treat all the kennedys as if they are royalty, they are doing their best to make Jimmy Carter look like he matters, with no mention of how crappy America was during his presidency.

Time magazine has had covers with titles like "the gingrich that stole christmas" and "is rush limbaugh good for America".... when I see a Time cover that says "Is air america good for America" or "Pelosi supports unions, except for the people who work in her family business" maybe I will see this anti-dem media you seem to see.

The media may be right of you...but they are definitly not right leaning.

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So why do we never see dead GI's? Dead Iraqi women? Dead Iraqi children? Wouldn't this 'left wing' press just love to rub this administrations nose in this war they all critically reported from day 1.
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Old 08-22-2007, 08:48 PM
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Clash beat me to it.

Also its funny, even with the horribly low approval ratings, Democrats are expected to add 2-6 Senate seats and 5-15 House seats next election(Of course this can change, but its for now).

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Isn't the 2-party system wonderful? When you've had enough of one party [censored] you in the ass with broken promises, you can always switch horses and have the other [censored] you in the ass for a bit.
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