Live 10-25, KK very deep 3 handed

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I think you are overlooking the fact that the flop was 234. In my experience, people almost always end up either not believing me in a reraised pot when the board leaves a 1-card wheel draw. And even if they do believe me, if they have a wheel draw plus pair or an ace with another biggish card, they are likely to attempt to move me off my hand if they think air is a decent part of my range.


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I really like this. Players like him probably convince themselves a lot of the time that you would play AK the same way and therefore cant lay down an overpair.
I would bet like 4k here and call a shove as he could really overvalue QQ/JJ here.

[Yeti]

strassa nailed it. i would have nailed it before him and won the plaudits but i only just woke up.

[Bill King]

its clear we're getting the money in here either way we play it.. so we're trying to extract max value vs. his tendencies and range.. i dont think checking accomplishes that whatsoever.

like strassa said.. your HH's and history w/ this guy shows that he will likely peel w/ AK b/c of the flop texture so why check and lose value? he also may be afraid of letting you peel w/ AK vs. his QQ-TT.. if you get in the mind of someone who isnt an idiot but isnt quite there yet you can understand that betting and auto-calling a shove is the way to go.

btw john the lawyer actually plays pretty well from what ive seen/heard from others.. does anybody know if he plays online at all?

[fsuplayer]

of course JTL plays well, what made you think otherwise?

he plays online, or has at one time, but id rather not say sites/limits.

[fsuplayer]

btw, ggbman, great OP.

and i like strass' post, and would bet closer to pot in doing so. maybe full pot, try and make it look like u could be pricing in ak or a flush draw. i think tt-qq looks you up/shoves more here with a large bet.

[Bill King]

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of course JTL plays well, what made you think otherwise?

he plays online, or has at one time, but id rather not say sites/limits.

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i never thought otherwise or said otherwise.. i just have heard all good things from others when im around and hes playing

[fsuplayer]

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of course JTL plays well, what made you think otherwise?

he plays online, or has at one time, but id rather not say sites/limits.

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i never thought otherwise or said otherwise.. i just have heard all good things from others when im around and hes playing

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misread, sry.


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btw john the lawyer actually plays pretty well from what ive seen/heard from others

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...was inferring that you had thought or heard otherwise.

[jsnipes28]

This hand is against the wealthy businessman, not JTL, correct?

[ggbman]

This was close to my line of thought, i will post the results of this hand within a day.

Bill: Like Mike said, John used to play online and does play very well... he asked me if i wanted to play HU for 2 minutes before the next 2 or 3 people joined and i declined, he is hands down the best player i have encountered in that game by a HUUUGE margin.

[stan ivey]

"john the lawyer" is a badass live name. the best i ever got was "mr. probability" by a fat drunk persian at the bellagio [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]