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#21
07-17-2007, 11:32 AM
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Re: Push these 2 for value?
hand 1 is an awful shove - you're deep and he doesn't pay you off with worse hearts, are you really float float pushing with air or a set? ridic - that's an ez call
hand 2 crai is weird but again you always get called by better, so i'm not sure how great it is - is this really a spot where you'd bluff a large portion of the time? i'm just curious about the thought process in this hand if you had, say 66, or like JT of hearts 
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#22
07-17-2007, 11:56 AM
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Re: Push these 2 for value?
"In any case, the account plays laggy and is one of the best players at 5/10."
hah
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#23
07-17-2007, 12:11 PM
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Re: Push these 2 for value?
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"In any case, the account plays laggy and is one of the best players at 5/10." hah [/ QUOTE ] oh noes, a poster who most confuse for a troll because he gives such terrible advice is questioning my analysis of a player.
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#24
07-17-2007, 12:13 PM
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Re: Push these 2 for value?
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[ QUOTE ] hand 1 def shove. hand 2 i'd probably open shove river or something weird like that but once you get there, i probably call because yes of course he'll snap call every ace, but i dont think he calls worse than an ace and i dont think you're ahead of 50% of his ace+ hands. [/ QUOTE ] are you even pretending to not be a troll anymore? [/ QUOTE ]
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#28
07-17-2007, 12:19 PM
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Re: Push these 2 for value?
hand 2- i think this player is sophisticated enough to realize that you can turn a pair into a bluff very easily on his turn river line. hes gonna put u on 55 or something and snap call with any big pair. also, i think its very likely he bets turn with an ace if he in fact has one so im not really worried about AK, AQ, AJ.
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#29
07-17-2007, 12:19 PM
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Re: Push these 2 for value?
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I'd def shove 1. You need to get paid at least sometimes to make this turn call correct. But prob more importantly you are a big favorite to be ahead on this board, and it allows you to bluff this river when your floats go wrong. [/ QUOTE ] whoa I really don't like this analysis. like - really don't like. 1 - raising to justify the turn call is silly. taking the most +EV option is our goal at all times - we're not trying to justify what in retrospect may seem -EV if we don't raise here. once you call the turn, raising the river on any card seems foolish (which probably makes calling the turn bad). 2 - you are a big favorite to be ahead here, but what in the world is calling? is ahnuld really float float raising with a set or two pair in this spot? are there that many worse flushes in g2cu's range (and is he paying off with all of them?) 3 - i suppose raising here creates the possibility of float float push bluffing with air, but that's not really something you'd need/want to introduce into a 6 max game.
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#30
07-17-2007, 12:20 PM
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Re: Push these 2 for value?
i was laughing because you referred to the account as playing laggy... it's funny.
i wasn't laughing at your analysis... although normally i would. [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] "In any case, the account plays laggy and is one of the best players at 5/10." hah [/ QUOTE ] oh noes, a poster who most confuse for a troll because he gives such terrible advice is questioning my analysis of a player. [/ QUOTE ]
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