My knee is slowing down about this global warming thing

[wacki]

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Could a global warming advocate please explain to me what caused the last ice age to end? 100,000 years ago my current location was under a wall of ice a mile thick. The glaciers melted without any human intervention.

This is not a joke, I am serious. Can you explain what caused the earth to heat and cool in the past? My guess is you can't.

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their problem isnt plausible explanations of the past, its the poor job the models do have explaining the present.

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lol. Haven't we been over this before? Hansen's models correctly predicted the future 20 years in advance.

http://www.logicalscience.com/skepti...dont-work.html

[Copernicus]

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Could a global warming advocate please explain to me what caused the last ice age to end? 100,000 years ago my current location was under a wall of ice a mile thick. The glaciers melted without any human intervention.

This is not a joke, I am serious. Can you explain what caused the earth to heat and cool in the past? My guess is you can't.

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their problem isnt plausible explanations of the past, its the poor job the models do have explaining the present.

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lol. Haven't we been over this before? Hansen's models correctly predicted the future 20 years in advance.

http://www.logicalscience.com/skepti...dont-work.html

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put enough models at enough computers and one of them will account for every large climate movement in history

[wacki]

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put enough models at enough computers and one of them will account for every large climate movement in history

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One and only one model was presented in front of congress in 1988.

Nice try though.

[Copernicus]

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put enough models at enough computers and one of them will account for every large climate movement in history

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One and only one model was presented in front of congress in 1988.

Nice try though.

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And its produced reasonable results for 20 years...not even a flicker in the time frame of climatology. I wrote a computer program in 1984 that was profitable for harness racing for 2 years after, and it was the only one I "presented" at the track. Needless to say I wouldnt be working today if it had continued to hold up.

Not close to a nice try

[PLOlover]

hey taraz what did your friend say about solar geologists or astrophysisicsts or whatrever; is their input used in the global warming models?

[AlexM]

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God, I love it when Wacki drops by to do a wonderful job of picking apart the flaws of the global warming skeptics while completely ignoring the flaws in the global warming advocates.

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[JOHNY CA$H]

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Could a global warming advocate please explain to me what caused the last ice age to end? 100,000 years ago my current location was under a wall of ice a mile thick. The glaciers melted without any human intervention.

This is not a joke, I am serious. Can you explain what caused the earth to heat and cool in the past? My guess is you can't.

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This is an odd and wrong assumption.

Here is a good place to start looking for the answers you seek:
http://www.amazon.com/Ice-Ages-Solvi.../dp/0674440757

Here is another place to start reading:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milankovitch_cycles

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Man, wacki owns. This is a slaughter.

[Taraz]

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hey taraz what did your friend say about solar geologists or astrophysisicsts or whatrever; is their input used in the global warming models?

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Sorry man, I totally dropped the ball on that one thread. I still haven't asked her. I'll try to get in touch with her this week.

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It's pretty easy to pick apart almost every one of Cockburn's 'claims'.

Specifically on his assertion that CO2 levels lag behind temperature rises: http://www.realclimate.org/index.php...2-in-ice-cores
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http://www.realclimate.org/index.php...-temp-and-co2/


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Strange, every time I've read those articles, the "logic" has seemed absurd and stupid, and his claim is pretty much exactly that. His claim is that these explanations are indeed terrible. How can the explanations he's calling terrible be used to refute him?

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Because these explanations are good enough for 99% of the people in the field.

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LOL. And that statement makes it clear that it's not worth talking to you about this.

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How about you count up how many articles in peer-reviewed science journals disagree that anthropogenic global warming is occurring over the past 20 years. And then compare that to how many of them agree.

[Taraz]

I honestly want to know what would convince you guys that man-made global warming is actually occurring? What kind of evidence do you want/need?