Just call me Gigabet

[umistboy]

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Ok, if you guys do not agree with this play, then what range of hands are you doing this with?

Hero's Hand- X X


Stack Sizes:

UTG- t1,500
UTG +1- t3,750
CO- t475
Button- t3,100
Hero (SB)- t4,000

UTG calls t100, UTG +1 calls t100, 3 folds, CO is all-in t475, Button calls t475, Hero is all-in t4,000.

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If I feel like gambling: TT+, AJs+

If not: JJ+, AQs+

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You don't need that strong of a hand. I'd personally go w/ any pocket pair, and 2 connecting cards 9+. But the key is to move all in, not raise for someone to "just see the flop".

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Yes but I would. I have 40BB, an all-in and a call(who calls 15% of his stack) and UTG who was loose and would decide I DON'T NEED TO GAMBLE MY STACK HERE.

[Bakes]

hey umistboy - +EV is +EV, none of your arguments make sense, you sound like a complete retard. CAPS LOCK CAN'T HIDE IT.

[Matt Williams]

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Ok, if you guys do not agree with this play, then what range of hands are you doing this with?

Hero's Hand- X X


Stack Sizes:

UTG- t1,500
UTG +1- t3,750
CO- t475
Button- t3,100
Hero (SB)- t4,000

UTG calls t100, UTG +1 calls t100, 3 folds, CO is all-in t475, Button calls t475, Hero is all-in t4,000.

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If I feel like gambling: TT+, AJs+

If not: JJ+, AQs+

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You don't need that strong of a hand. I'd personally go w/ any pocket pair, and 2 connecting cards 9+. But the key is to move all in, not raise for someone to "just see the flop".

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Yes but I would. I have 40BB, an all-in and a call(who calls 15% of his stack) and UTG who was loose and would decide I DON'T NEED TO GAMBLE MY STACK HERE.

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Yea I see what you are saying, but do you thinkthe button is going to want to go all in if he only called earlier?

[umistboy]

WSOP would you make this play with the same situation?

If you saw this play would you think good play?

Maths aside, this is sh*t play. ALL-IN against an all-in and a call. Exactly what range are you happy to push against?

[Matt Williams]

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WSOP would you make this play with the same situation?

If you saw this play would you think good play?

Maths aside, this is sh*t play. ALL-IN against an all-in and a call. Exactly what range are you happy to push against?

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It's funny because by talking to you, I am starting to see why this was a good play. By going all in, you are forcing people to fold better hands. I personally wouldn't have done it because 75o is bad, but if you can isolate against 1 and not really risk that much of your stack, why not?

[FortunaMaximus]

Exactly. Just 'cause it's the WSOP, such reverence. [censored]. 25 years, you gon' play a thousand events, if not more.

Lookin' at Hendon db earlier today, top 50 blah blah, workin' on a tribute piece for Wednesday...

I don't see many w/t's on that list.

[umistboy]

Right so this is what we want:

1. to risk ALL of our chips
2. hope that all those better had hands fold (even those that we have reads as being loose & even the potentally trapping ones)
3. to hope that IF this all happens then we have a 40% chance (at best) against the all-in push
4. to see this as being a good play when we have 40BB and 75o.

Fair enough, you are genius' and I'm not in any way trying to criticise but I simply cannot see this as a good play (but would love to be able to see honestly improve as a player)

[TwistedEcho]

Umistboy, your range is way, way, WAY too tight.

[betgo]

The play is awful, terrible, retarded etc. You gain a few chips on average when you successfully isolate. When you get called, you lose huge numbers of chips.

The UTG limper and the flat caller couold have big pairs. The flat caller could decide his AQ or JJ or whatever may be ahead of your push. One of the two players to act could have a big hand.

This play makes absolutely no sense, and I don't see how people defend it. Making wild chip spewing pushes doesn't make OP Gigabet or whatever.

[umistboy]

Fair enough, but please explain why 75o is a GOOD move.

I understand that slightly looser than mine may be fine ( I can be tight and not recognise spots to move - hey I'm always learning) but 75o: Come On!