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Old 11-17-2006, 05:51 PM
tolbiny tolbiny is offline
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So you just stopped by here to inform us that you know the truth, but are unwilling to share it with us. That's a really nice gesture of you.

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When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

Same principle applies here.

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Wait, are you calling ACers geniuses? They certainly fit that description more than any other political ideology than any other group. Hell communists get more respect in general.
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Old 11-17-2006, 05:53 PM
Brainwalter Brainwalter is offline
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So you just stopped by here to inform us that you know the truth, but are unwilling to share it with us. That's a really nice gesture of you.

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When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

Same principle applies here.

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Wait, are you calling ACers geniuses? They certainly fit that description more than any other political ideology than any other group. Hell communists get more respect in general.

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Yeah in his statement, he's the true genius, defending the status quo, ha.
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Old 11-17-2006, 06:24 PM
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I'm not defending the poster, but I find it interesting that I've said nearly the same thing about certain ACists.

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I'm not going to say ACists don't insult, but whenever anyone has asked we've been more then happy to explain our position and why it's logical, and explain why the people we've debated has an illogical position.

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I'm going to agree with Shake, here. ACists have a propensity for going over the top with being impolite, but they at least offer substance.

Also, having a Libertarian call someone else 'batshit crazy' and out of touch with reality for their ideology is pretty unintentionally hilarious, considering how much influence and respect Libertarians have in the 'real world.'
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Old 11-17-2006, 06:30 PM
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I was going to start my own thread for this one, but this will work.

Today, I'm walking up to my car which was parked legally on the street. I notice that there is a ticket in the windshield. I think "What the hell is this? I'm parked legally." I grab it and read it. They don't want any money, its simply a form filled out by hand reminding me to lock my car door (I had left it unlocked over night). There were a couple other boxes on the form the officer could have checked as safety reminders like not leaving your windows open. I guess government isn't all bad.
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Old 11-17-2006, 06:38 PM
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Today, I'm walking up to my car which was parked legally on the street. I notice that there is a ticket in the windshield. I think "What the hell is this? I'm parked legally." I grab it and read it. They don't want any money, its simply a form filled out by hand reminding me to lock my car door (I had left it unlocked over night). There were a couple other boxes on the form the officer could have checked as safety reminders like not leaving your windows open. I guess government isn't all bad.

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iron, iron, iron...you know where this is going:

"zomg but that jackbooted thug of a cop is paid with my stolen and thefted monies. What if that same cop put a gun to your head, took your money, then gave you a hot dog you didn't want?"
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Old 11-17-2006, 06:45 PM
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Well you convinced me. One time some guy I knew over the internet had a note set on his car by someone who worked for the government saying to lock his doors next time. Go Government!
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Old 11-17-2006, 07:14 PM
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People become police officers because they like to control and bully others. They like to exert power over other people. They get off on it. They bark orders (license and registration!) and make you scared and that makes them feel happy and content.

Look up the 'stanford prison experiment' on the internet to see what power does to ordinary citizens. Now think about the people who seek out positions where they are the power and carry guns and exert power and control over citizens.

I have met a lot of police officers in my lifetime. Out of the dozens I have met, be they childhood friends, friends of my father, or officers giving out tickes, whatever... there were 2 that had stable well balanced personalities and the rest are a powder keg waiting to explode.

One girl fresh out of college working in a group home I supervised told me of how her boyfriend worked at a police station. He worked as a dispatcher or something, trying to work his way into the force.

Anyway there was a disabled guy in a wheelchair who also worked there as a dispatcher. Aparently the chief/sargent/whoever was in charge did not like that guy. He wanted him to quit and was harrassing him to do so. The guy did not quit so the chief went so far as to pull a knife on him and threaten him in efforts to get him to quit. Well that was enought to get the girls boyfriend to choose another career path. As for the chief, well he had to do an anger management/sensitivity class.

If he is willing to do that to a guy in a wheel chair who is his own employee, what do you think he is going to do to a drunk in an alley who gives him a bit of lip?

I have personally been physically beaten by police for giving some lip, not resisting in any way or threatening, but talking in an angry and insulting way to the police. Without resisting in any way I was acutally held by 4 officers while I had my hands cuffed behind my back and beaten into unconsciousness. They also had 2 rookies watch. And this was not even in the heat of the moment, i was put in a cell and taken out an hour or so later while they did this. It was planned and calculated and happened right in the police station.

The reason I was giving lip? The cop who arrested me (actually I was drunk and just picked up to be held for my safety and released after x hours when sobered up) planted a joint on me. When I told on him and the captain asked me to tell the story forward and back and played some tricks to try to figure out if i was lying..well he eventually figured out i was telling the truth and said the officer was 'going on report' or something. I started biotching saying he should be fired, was a scumbag criminal, etc. Well that was enought to turn the whole station against me. I was not charged with the possession but was beaten unconscious.

Protect and serve? lol that is a joke. police have no respect for us, not even us law abiding citizens who only come in contact with them by being pulled over for speeding and similar such situtions.

I do believe the stable personalitied cops will move up into detective, etc so there are some out there they just have less direct contact with citizens. The propblem, of course, is that they will not tell on the police criminals who steal and abuse, etc.
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Old 11-17-2006, 08:34 PM
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iron, iron, iron...you know where this is going:

"zomg but that jackbooted thug of a cop is paid with my stolen and thefted monies. What if that same cop put a gun to your head, took your money, then gave you a hot dog you didn't want?"

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Preach it, brother. It's so annoying when those guys I mug whine and cry. Just give me the money and STFU already!
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Old 11-17-2006, 09:06 PM
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Where is your car safer,
On a goverment owned street or in a privately owned street?
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Old 11-17-2006, 11:46 PM
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I was going to start my own thread for this one, but this will work.

Today, I'm walking up to my car which was parked legally on the street. I notice that there is a ticket in the windshield. I think "What the hell is this? I'm parked legally." I grab it and read it. They don't want any money, its simply a form filled out by hand reminding me to lock my car door (I had left it unlocked over night). There were a couple other boxes on the form the officer could have checked as safety reminders like not leaving your windows open. I guess government isn't all bad.

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Does the government where you live leave a note on your fridge when you forget to do the laundry or take out the garbage? Because that would be ever so helpful.
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