To bet or not to bet the river... that is the question

[bozlax]

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you are speaking of bluffs. not value bets.

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Hmmm, doing a quick search I see that I did, in fact, write "A-B-C river-value-bet". And you're also right, that's not what I intended, and not what I've been talking about.

I've been responding to the original question, "What action should Hero take on the river?" I still say bet-fold. And we agree. So, that's that.

[bozlax]

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Of all the options a check/call is far and away the worst.

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Bet/call is worse, as is bet/3-bet.

[btspider]

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This is how I understand the conversation with btspider about this hand:

On the river, we need villain to have 22,33,55,86,T6,J6 A-high, or busted straight draw to win this. Once he calls the turn, he could either be on a flush draw, has one of the preceeding hands, or has a 5 and is looking for his straight. The question is, is it better to c/c on the river or bet/fold? Does someone with a 40% VP$IP have enough busted 5 hands,22,33,86,T6,J6,A-high to make up for the times he has a made flush, better 6x hand than us, hit his pair of 7's on the turn? This guy's range is very large, but a lot of his range does beat us unfortunately. Btspider suggested a c/c. What do you think?

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i suggested check-fold. i think i added later that i'd rather cc than bf.. mostly b/c i think he might check behind more better hands than worse hands will call. he may also bluff bet some small % of the time.