AL MVP Jeter

[MCS]

You are probably going to get crushed. Be prepared.

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I didn't wanna turn this into an internet cock waving contest, bet Mauer is pressed to be the third best player on his team.

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Behind Santana and ?

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liriano

[TheRover]

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I didn't wanna turn this into an internet cock waving contest, bet Mauer is pressed to be the third best player on his team.

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Behind Santana and ?

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liriano

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In terms of MVP award...

VORP:
Liriano-50.3
Mauer-59

Win Shares: 17, 22

Plus Liriano is probably done for the year.

In terms of who is a better player you're probably right although as hard as it is to find a great catcher I'd have to think it over a lot.

and I don't see anyone close to these three, maybe I'm forgetting someone? ("Mauer is pressed to be the third best player on his team")

[centris]

Justin Morneau has 19 WS and you could make the arguement that he is right there with Mauer, Santana and Liriano in terms of his importance to the Twins.

[TheRover]

morneau's vorp is 44.4 as a 1B/DH you've got to be having a hell of a season to be as valuable as a catcher since the numbers of a replacement level 1B/DH are so much higher than for C

[centris]

Yeah I think that because of position Mauer is 'more vaulable' than Morneau, but I still think that he has to be considered when you are talking about the most vaulable Twins.

Also I do think that MVP voters are very concered about positional value over a replacement, even though it is important.

[Thremp]

Thats essentially what I was talking about Santana, Liriano, Morneau. Of course Mauer is v v good and if the internet isn't a place for rampant hyperbole.... Where is?


BTW I read my first post. Jeter is by no means a lock (that was dumb) but the line seems way off on this. I think voters continue in their pattern and he has a better than 50% chance to take this down as opposed to what the line seems to say.

[Thremp]

Last odds I saw had Jeter 5-4 and Ortiz 1-1.

Woot.

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Where?

[ubercuber]

Best Twin has to be Mauer, but Johan is keeping us alive, so in my view Twins MVP. Not sure the voters think that way though. I used to watch Ortiz play plenty as a Twin, and I felt he had to go; the suggestions that he is as only as good as his supporting cast are right on IMO. Morneau and Mauer, Santana and Liriano, Hunter and Cuddyer, Garza. Nathan. I think we roll into that new park with a squad!

ALMVP Goes to the guy with most ridiculous numbers....Morneau hits a few extra out, Mauer keeps the hits comimng, Santana notch a BIG over De Troit, and teh Twins hit the playoffs: One of the guys is getting the MVP.

But, to restate my opinion, Johan is the guy.

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