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Old 09-18-2005, 07:22 PM
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this guy cant have 78 or 43?
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Old 09-18-2005, 07:27 PM
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Of course he can.
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Old 09-18-2005, 07:39 PM
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this guy cant have 78 or 43?

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Of course he can.

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right, so it isnt wawb
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Old 09-18-2005, 07:45 PM
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this guy cant have 78 or 43?

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Of course he can.

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right, so it isnt wawb

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I know what you're saying but I don't agree that the possibility of him holding an OESD on the flop makes this not treatable as a WA/WB scenario.
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Old 09-18-2005, 07:49 PM
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this guy cant have 78 or 43?

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Of course he can.

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right, so it isnt wawb

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I know what you're saying but I don't agree that the possibility of him holding an OESD on the flop makes this not treatable as a WA/WB scenario.

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8 outs is not wb. even 5 outs is not way behind.
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Old 09-18-2005, 08:19 PM
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It sounds like the only thing that fits your definition of WA/WB is having 22 on a K72r flop.
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Old 09-18-2005, 08:23 PM
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AK on AT7 vs PFR.
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Old 09-18-2005, 08:31 PM
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AK on AT7 vs PFR.

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People never raise 98?
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Old 09-18-2005, 08:36 PM
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AK on AT7 vs PFR.

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People never raise 98?

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Very unlikely. Much more likely that he has an ace or a set. So the most likely (overwhelmingly so) scenario is that you have no outs or he has three outs. That is WAWB. Or T52 flop with KK vs preflop re-raised. You have two outs or he has two outs. WAWB. But when you raised preflop and a loose player calls you, you have to think that suited connectors are well within their playing range. So it is not at all unlikely that he could have 5 or 8 outs. So you should bet the turn. It is not very likely that he raises the turn with a hand that you beat, although with top two it is possible. And you have 4 outs here no matter what he has so you are behind but at least you have some reasonable number of outs. It's not like you're drawing dead even if he has a set. So I definitely bet the turn. Whether or not you call a raise depends on the opponent. With top two, I'm usually calling a raise.
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Old 09-18-2005, 08:44 PM
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AK on AT7 vs PFR.

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People never raise 98?

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dude you are really pushing it w/ the "what if's"

even if it was WAWB, river check sucks a lot for simple reason of leaving sklansky bucks on the table.
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