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Old 08-09-2007, 03:07 PM
milesdyson milesdyson is offline
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people fold 88-TT if you c/r the flop here? lies
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Old 08-09-2007, 03:34 PM
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neither betting nor Check raising is ever correct here w/o 2 pair or trips.

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If he is going to fold TT here to a flop c/r, I'm going to do that every hand.

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i dont want him to fold TT, if he does I made a rather large mistake. Same with AK/AQ.

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I think Honey Badger's point refers to the times that we don't have something as strong as AJ here. And that if we check-call when we have something and check-raise when we don't, we are going to become pretty easy to exploit.

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Villain's range is so narrow and so strong that it really doesn't matter much.

EDIT: Also, any hand better than ours is folding 0% of the time, so if we want to be deceptive then we need to look weak so that his even weaker hands that we beat will give more action than they should.
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Old 08-09-2007, 03:35 PM
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people fold 88-TT if you c/r the flop here? lies

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An 18/10/1.5 3bets a legit pfr with 88? lies
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Old 08-09-2007, 03:37 PM
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people fold 88-TT if you c/r the flop here? lies

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That was my point. There is two cases: he folds a hand like 88-TT, or he doesn't. If he does, this means he will do this all the time, and we should be check-raising the flop with a very wide range of hands. But to avoid being too obvious, we should also check-raise frequently when we do have a made hand and avoid being exploited ourselves (as McGee noted). In the second case, in which he does not fold a hand like 88-TT, we can value bet it all the way.

It depends on how tricky my opponent is and the exact texture of the board. Versus a tricky opponent I'm more comfortable getting to showdown cheaply, while versus a weak opponent I'm prepared to take the initiative.

Perhaps we are in disagreement over the read on villain. I think an 18/10 player has a reasonably wide 3-betting range here: something like {99+, AQo+, AJs+}
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Old 08-09-2007, 06:51 PM
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Perhaps we are in disagreement over the read on villain. I think an 18/10 player has a reasonably wide 3-betting range here: something like {99+, AQo+, AJs+}

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That's MY range and I'm both looser and more aggressive than that pf.
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