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08-21-2007, 12:19 AM
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Re: Is this a leak?
and he got it in as a dog, and lost the hand.
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08-21-2007, 12:30 AM
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Re: Is this a leak?
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PR, Stacks are better set-up for a c-bet, three bet AI rather than a checkraise. Your check raise is a big overbet and therefore kinda looks like what it is. [/ QUOTE ] Not betting this flop is a huge leak...u want to get it in on this flop every time, bet(pot-sized)/3bet is your only play here. As played, your shove looks like what it is, but you have so much equity against his range that you shouldn't really care.
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#23
08-21-2007, 12:32 AM
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and he got it in as a dog, and lost the hand. [/ QUOTE ] Results oriented much? Actually, I much rather prefer check/raising all-in in a tournament than in a cash game. In a cash game, 2-pair never calls this bet and we are always getting the worst of it. In a tournament, players call with all sorts of crap, and we have tons of equity.
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#24
08-21-2007, 09:20 AM
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Re: Is this a leak?
What happens if it checks around and a blank comes on the turn?
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#26
08-21-2007, 10:27 AM
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Re: Is this a leak?
Standard
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#28
08-21-2007, 12:03 PM
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I shove this all day long if I know i can get it called. I probably just lead out but I can see C/Ring and shove the turn... but Ya I'm excited with this hand to say the least. Ef worrying about a set... wtf?
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#29
08-21-2007, 12:14 PM
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Re: Is this a leak?
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[ QUOTE ] What happens if it checks around and a blank comes on the turn? [/ QUOTE ] Well then I suppose we just got a free card to our draw, heaven forbid? [/ QUOTE ] Wow, what a well informed answer to my question about strategy. The original question asked was "is this a leak?" followed by how the hand would be played if a 2h came instead of a 9h. If the 2h came instead of the 9h the check/shove would be easier to call from a set of tens. If villain even has something like AJ it's a near coinflip. I could also make the argument that AJ would have trouble calling here because of a potential overpair since hero raised utg, but not a set of tens. While the later responses cream over such a powerful drawing hand, there is never a discussion if the play is a leak. Clearly it is a leak because a play like this pretty much advertises your hand and in all likelihood you will only get called by 2 pair or better. In this case a set. [ QUOTE ] I shove this all day long if I know i can get it called. I probably just lead out but I can see C/Ring and shove the turn... but Ya I'm excited with this hand to say the least. Ef worrying about a set... wtf? [/ QUOTE ] lol, please tell me when your book deal is official.
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#30
08-21-2007, 12:55 PM
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Re: Is this a leak?
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Wow, what a well informed answer to my question about strategy. The original question asked was "is this a leak?" followed by how the hand would be played if a 2h came instead of a 9h. If the 2h came instead of the 9h the check/shove would be easier to call from a set of tens. If villain even has something like AJ it's a near coinflip. I could also make the argument that AJ would have trouble calling here because of a potential overpair since hero raised utg, but not a set of tens. While the later responses cream over such a powerful drawing hand, there is never a discussion if the play is a leak. Clearly it is a leak because a play like this pretty much advertises your hand and in all likelihood you will only get called by 2 pair or better. In this case a set. [/ QUOTE ] What is so retarded about your responses is that you are ignoring the fact that you are getting all of the money in as a favorite. Even if you are only getting called by 2 pair or better you have 48% equity in the hand with your draw. Board: 9h Tc Jh Dead: equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 48.000% 47.60% 00.40% 30157 256.00 { AhQh } Hand 1: 52.000% 51.60% 00.40% 32691 256.00 { JJ-99, KQs, J9s+, T9s, 87s, KQo, J9o+, T9o, 87o } And since we can just about promise ourselves that some other hands will be calling too (see my other post for a more accurate range) we are a favorite. You have to play your hand against the opponents range not against only the best hands he could have. I think not getting your money in as a favorite is a leak! BTW I still think that taking this down right here is also good. There is nothing wrong with leading but c/ring is also very acceptable and in the end as long as the chips got in there is no difference.
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