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Old 04-02-2006, 03:34 AM
Meezer Meezer is offline
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I use curse words and fold here.
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Old 04-02-2006, 03:44 AM
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I use curse words and fold here.

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Facing a raise and re-raise... I really don't think we're ahead enough of both ranges to join in.. although a cold-cap would be quite intimidating to both raisers, and probably result in a cheap/free showdown.
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Old 04-02-2006, 01:52 PM
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range i'm not sure. stats 27/17 ish. so i would guess his range is likely 99+, AQ+, possibly 77-88, AJ, KQ too if generous
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Old 04-02-2006, 04:36 PM
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Old 04-02-2006, 06:46 PM
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My first idea was to fold than i think a little bit and decide to raise, sometimes we will get the UTG out, and we will have the possition advantage, if the raiser is 3beting with PP we can win the pot immediately if the flop comes something like AQx and if he is betting high card we can still beat him easily with rag board.
That is what was going through my mind.
Any comments very wellcome.

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Seems reasonable to me.
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Old 04-03-2006, 08:44 AM
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We have an UTG raise by an unknown. Do we have any reason to believe that the MP TAG does know him. Absent a belief that he is a very loose raiser you have a problem of hand value escalation. He needed a good hand to raise UTG. MP needs a much better hand to reraise and a winning TAG knows that. Now you need an even better hand to cap it and TT just ain’t it. Muck it and say a little thank you that you aren’t involved as a lot of money goes into a pot you would have no idea where you stood in.

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Old 04-03-2006, 01:43 PM
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Cap it, get the blinds out and UTG X% of the time. Unless the tag hits the flop well or holds QQ-AA your good here (JJ probably fold if Q-A flops). I can see the case for any option, but I believe a cap here is >EV than call or fold.
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