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03-13-2006, 03:11 PM
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Re: An AK Hand
what about a flop check raise?
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#13
03-13-2006, 03:19 PM
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Re: An AK Hand
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what about a flop check raise? [/ QUOTE ] I might do that if the TAG has not capped. His capping pf screams a narrower range and its going to be more expensive to make our draw or push the opponent off of his hand. So, I don't think a flop c/r is good here.
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#14
03-13-2006, 03:21 PM
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Re: An AK Hand
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I hate c/r the flop. If he's ahead we're not going to get a free turn card. [/ QUOTE ] You have more equity so the c/r is for value. This has nothing to do with a free card. Right? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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#15
03-13-2006, 03:25 PM
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Re: An AK Hand
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[ QUOTE ] I hate c/r the flop. If he's ahead we're not going to get a free turn card. [/ QUOTE ] You have more equity so the c/r is for value. This has nothing to do with a free card. Right? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] That's the idea.
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#16
03-13-2006, 03:29 PM
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Re: An AK Hand
how does villain see you? are you playing tag/lag/other?
There are villains that I'll cap against with 99, especially if they 3-bet me from BB (not a lot and I'm guessing that OP wouldn't fall into that category, but say you've got 50 hands against villain and you've been on a rush). I think the stove uses reasonable hand range. I like the c/r on the flop for value. It also changes how the hand plays. As it is, I can't see how calling the river is good?
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#17
03-13-2006, 03:38 PM
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Re: An AK Hand
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[ QUOTE ] I hate c/r the flop. If he's ahead we're not going to get a free turn card. [/ QUOTE ] You have more equity so the c/r is for value. This has nothing to do with a free card. Right? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] all I saw was the pokerstove thing and I'm not sold. how often will we be 3bet on the flop? we need more than 50% equity to jam this flop. especially when we're not going to claim it all.
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#18
03-13-2006, 03:42 PM
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Re: An AK Hand
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I hate c/r the flop. If he's ahead we're not going to get a free turn card. [/ QUOTE ] You have more equity so the c/r is for value. This has nothing to do with a free card. Right? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] all I saw was the pokerstove thing and I'm not sold. how often will we be 3bet on the flop? we need more than 50% equity to jam this flop. especially when we're not going to claim it all. [/ QUOTE ] Well I think the stove range is pretty good. It shows we have more than 50% equity and that's when we go to the river. More often than not we arent when we don't make a hand so I think that boosts us up a bit. And if we're check raising for value we should be capping for value once we get 3-bet on the flop. I still advocate checking the turn no matter the flop action though.
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#19
03-13-2006, 03:46 PM
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Re: An AK Hand
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And if we're check raising for value we should be capping for value once we get 3-bet on the flop. [/ QUOTE ] you think his range doesn't narrow when he 3bets the flop? you think he's 3betting with TT/AK?
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#20
03-13-2006, 03:46 PM
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RESULTS
River went check-check, villain had AK and we chopped.
Even though I am playing for half-the pot, if villain will always bet his unimproved AK on the river then I am good often enogh to call. However, many players will only bet when they have a pair (or better). I don't know if the typical TAG will bet his unimproved AK on the end here given the poassive way I played the hand post-flop to try to get another AK to fold. The results here suggest they won't. If that is generally true then I should check-fold.
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