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Yeah, you're probably better off shoving turn then I guess.
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Also, if we make KT a smaller part of her range we are ahead:
Board: Ah Jd 2h Qc Wins Ties Equity 51.69% 0.00% 51.69% ( JsJh ) 48.31% 0.00% 48.31% ( AA,QQ,AQ,AJ(25),KhQh(10),Th9h(10),KT(50),22 ) I'm not sure what to do with KT. It's a gutshot on the flop, but a solid player might still call one bet with stacks this deep for implied odds. |
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But generally folds KT to a reraise preflop.
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Yeah, so it looks like it should be a smaller part of her range. Maybe we can make the same argument that she would call pre-flop for implied odds because of stack sizes? And OP also said she is tricky, which also suggests she might call with more marginal holdings.
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A couple more things:
1. Hero hasn't necessarily shown too much aggression here. Of course there is Hero's 3-bet pre-flop, but the second barrel is not huge, so maybe villain will make a play here without a monster hand sometimes? So maybe we can widen villain's range a bit. 2. Villain did not 4-bet preflop, which allows us to discount AA a bit as part of her range. Yes tricky players will smooth call 3-bets pre-flop when they have AA sometimes or even often, but not every time, so we can definitely discount AA at least a little. It is looking more and more like we are ahead of villain's range here. Here's what I get with AA slightly discounted: Board: Ah Jd 2h Qc Wins Ties Equity 53.10% 0.00% 53.10% ( JsJh ) 46.90% 0.00% 46.90% ( AA(75),QQ,AQ,AJ(25),KhQh(10),Th9h(10),KT(50),22 ) |
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Board: Ah Jd 2h Qc Wins Ties Equity 45.06% 0.00% 45.06% ( JsJh ) 54.94% 0.00% 54.94% ( AA,QQ,AQ,AJ(25),KhQh(10),Th9h(10),KT,22 ) Edit: AJ added with .25 weight relative to other holdings [/ QUOTE ] What's that for a tool, which can weight some hands more? |
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But generally folds KT to a reraise preflop. [/ QUOTE ] Why would you assume that? This is deep and Ms.Click has position so he/she can and should be willing to call with a very wide range in this spot. As for the turn action, I much prefer to just call the turn raise b/c I think if the money gets in on the turn this deep, there is a really good chance that we are the ones drawing on the river. |
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[ QUOTE ] But generally folds KT to a reraise preflop. [/ QUOTE ] Why would you assume that? This is deep and Ms.Click has position so he/she can and should be willing to call with a very wide range in this spot. As for the turn action, I much prefer to just call the turn raise b/c I think if the money gets in on the turn this deep, there is a really good chance that we are the ones drawing on the river. [/ QUOTE ] I dunno, it just seems like a solid player wouldn't want to play a big pot except with KTs, which he may call. There's only 4 combos of it, and I just am not sure if he/she calls preflop every time. |
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what a horrible convertor.
push and stack AQ/AJ who are drawing to almost deadness. Villain almost never holds KT unless they have KThh exactly, see also AK which wouldn't raise the turn often We stack 22 AQ AJ get stacked by QQ and sometimes also get stacked by AA there are a ton more ways you can get dealt AQ/AJ/22 than AA/QQ /KThh so push turn all day, there's a bunch of river cards that might kill the action when we do have villain crushed here. |
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what a horrible convertor. push and stack AQ/AJ who are drawing to almost deadness. Villain almost never holds KT unless they have KThh exactly, see also AK which wouldn't raise the turn often We stack 22 AQ AJ get stacked by QQ and sometimes also get stacked by AA there are a ton more ways you can get dealt AQ/AJ/22 than AA/QQ /KThh so push turn all day, there's a bunch of river cards that might kill the action when we do have villain crushed here. [/ QUOTE ] I think you should probably be willing to discount AJ somewhat. As for saying that KThh is the only KT hand that villain shows up with, again, I don't understand why one would think that. Villain has odds to call with just about anything preflop. I will concede that KT suited is far more likely than KTo, but as far as it just being hearts - I don't see it. |
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