Winrates at HU vs. 6-max NLCASH

[TNixon]

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no way

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Really?

Where exactly do you disagree, and could you lay out some reasonable winrates that would show cash being much more profitable per hour than sngs?

Do you disagree that a buyin per hour is feasible one-tabling? Like I said, I trust my source implicitly, and my own experience would seem to back it up, with my average hands per game being right in the neighborhood that it would need to be to get 6 or 7 games per hour single-tabling.

If you disagree with a full buyin per hour, what about 3/4 a buyin per hour? That would be more like 4 or 5 sngs per hour, which is probably doable even at regulars, much less turbos.

[xSCWx]

I think finding players to sit with you can make it difficult to get this many games in per hour without multitabling.

[TNixon]

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I think finding players to sit with you can make it difficult to get this many games in per hour without multitabling.

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Maybe. But even if a full buyin per hour isn't realistic (and I'll admit that's a close call), 3/4 of a buyin per hour, which is only 5 games per hour at a 60% winrate, seems perfectly reasonable, at least for $110s and under. Higher than that it might be harder to find opponents, I guess, but I never had any trouble at all getting $100s and $110s to start pretty quickly.

Even if we drop that and say only a half buyin per hour is reasonable, that's still like two and a half cash tables per sng table.

[xSCWx]

1/2 is definitely feasible long term. I wouldn't rule out 3/4 or 1 but it is definitely in another ballpark.

It probably depends what time you are playing as well. Playing at ~6am central isn't exactly prime time for me to find games.

[shipurstack]

i just disagreed with the hourlys of sngs vs hu cash. I could be way off obviously cause i don't even play sngs, but say 2 tabling 5/10 hu i can make around 350/hr(this is a low estimate). I guess that is feasible for the 1030's but i don't know. My first response was quick and didn't really think about it much, and based only on the fact that i think the 1030's are probably harder to beat than 5/10 cash.

[xSCWx]

If we are going that high then it definitely isn't possible to keep up in HU SNGs due to limitations of actually finding games.

I was thinking more along the lines of $50-$200 games.

[shipurstack]

well what is a good players hourly at the 200's? and anyone who plays nl200 hucash post their hourly as well(doesn't LJ play these levels?) I'm actually curious about this

[cwar]

A full buyin per hour is not possible on PS only on FTP with over 13% ROI.

[jay_shark]

If we compare NL100 with a $100+$5 SNG , then you will earn more profits playing in the sng .

ie , 200*.6-105=15/sng and if we use 1sng=15 minutes , we get $60/h which in turn is equivalent to about $60/180 hands or $33.333/100 hands .

You cannot earn more than $33.3333/100 hands if you're equally skilled in both games playing in the NL100 .

[abcjnich]

The biggest difference between HU and 6max is that 6max is much more math oriented and HU is much more about pyschology.

I have 6-12 tabled .25/.50-1/2 6 max in the past and it's much more about playing your overall basic strategy and randomly mixing up your play (i.e. 3betting air, flatting a raise w/ AA).

HU is about metagame and adjusting to different opponents uber times the amount it is in 6max.

And a 4-7 ptbb/100 winrate at 6 max is very high for the higher levels. Lol at someone having a 7ptbb winrate at 5/10 over 100k hands. I read somewhere that whitelime has a 5ptbb career winrate at 5/10 and he's probably in the top 50 online players in the world.