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Old 09-12-2007, 08:21 AM
usha usha is offline
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Default Re: $12 FT 180, 66 facing an all in from shortstack and call from donk


Without your read on MP1 looks like a fold, IMO, but with your read on him, I probably shove this. You might get other players w 77-TT,AQ to fold here and you are about 60/40 against UTG+1 and MP1 will be calling here with 22-55, KTs+,some weak As or even SC overcards.
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Old 09-12-2007, 09:15 AM
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Default Re: $12 FT 180, 66 facing an all in from shortstack and call from donkey..

PUSH!!!!!! We have +EV vs. UTG+1 with that range you stated you put him on. As for the donkey of course he will call you and I'm sure his range is even worse, so why wait for another spot?? With 5 minute blinds bearing down on you, this may be your best spot to make your push to try and win this thing.

Why fold and wait for another spot when the donkey is going to call you anyway, mine as well go for it now, 66 could be the best hand you will see for the rest of this tourney with the turbo structure and if you pass on this you will have no FE on future hands with that donk there anyway, so I say easy push here.
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Old 09-12-2007, 10:18 AM
JoeyJoJo Shabadu JoeyJoJo Shabadu is offline
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Default Re: $12 FT 180, 66 facing an all in from shortstack and call from donkey..

You're 3 ways for 10K and heads up for the other 15K and almost assuredly no better than a coin flip. You can't call. Fack that. You're all-in or nothing.

3 more to act behind you that is the problem and they see see the donkey too. I'm don't want to get AI in a three way pot with 66 for all my chips...but if they both have an ace... you're way +EV. The blinds are so big ... did UTG just lose a big pot and now shoved? Or has he sat there being blinded off the last 20 hands? If first one shove, if second... shove if you don't think he has a bigger pair.
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Old 09-12-2007, 10:24 AM
BarryLyndon BarryLyndon is offline
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Default Re: $12 FT 180, 66 facing an all in from shortstack and call from donkey..

Yeah, push, that's it.

The blinds are huge and you have a pocket pair. Because donkey's calling range is so big, you are getting excellent odds against his range. You are also getting good odds against the first pusher, who's M is extremely low. If I were you, I'd try to put a range in for both of their hands and see where you are at three way.

Barry
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Old 09-12-2007, 10:31 AM
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Default Re: $12 FT 180, 66 facing an all in from shortstack and call from donk

140,422,091 games 199.188 secs 704,972 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 33.234% 32.60% 00.63% 45782898 887231.33 { 66 }
Hand 1: 29.966% 29.18% 00.79% 40979008 1102775.83 { 22+, A2s+, K5s+, Q8s+, J8s+, T8s+, 98s, A2o+, K7o+, Q8o+, J8o+, T8o+, 98o }
Hand 2: 36.800% 35.74% 01.06% 50191289 1487374.17 { 22+, ATs+, KTs+, QTs+, JTs, ATo+, KTo+, QTo+, JTo }
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Old 09-12-2007, 11:03 AM
BarryLyndon BarryLyndon is offline
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Default Re: $12 FT 180, 66 facing an all in from shortstack and call from donk

Narrow Hand2's range down because he probably reraises with 1010+; AQ+. It's looking more and more like a push, right?

Barry
PS: If you push, you have a good chance of knocking out 77 -99 from players behind you.
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