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Re: JJ hand against a relative unknown who *seems* to be tight?
This would have been fine if you had called the river getting 6:1.
You could also put him on air and 4-bet/call shove. 4-betting and folding to a shove is gross. |
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Re: JJ hand against a relative unknown who *seems* to be tight?
lol
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Re: JJ hand against a relative unknown who *seems* to be tight?
make the initial raise ~$4.50, then 4bet/call. if he plays QQ-AA like this god bless his sorry ass.
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Re: JJ hand against a relative unknown who *seems* to be tight?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Preflop: Jacks are a horrid bitch to play, especially OOP, when you are not the aggressor PF. I 4-bet this to like 14, and fold to a shove. [/ QUOTE ] You're turning JJ into 22 doing this. [/ QUOTE ] Not exactly, JJ still has some value when flat called, 22 does not. Limp raising the CO? Does anybody limp RR with only the button left with AA/KK? Looks a lot more like AK/TT and lower to me. JJ is much better against that range than 22. [/ QUOTE ] What worse hands are calling a 4bet here? Obviously his range for doing this is wider than AA/KK, but he's only calling a 4bet with the top end that has JJ crushed. I think 4betting JJ/QQ is terrible like 90% of the time except against regs and lags that you have 4betting history with, or complete droolers. [/ QUOTE ] If 4 betting QQ is terrible then isn't 4 betting in general terrible? I'm not necessarily advocating 4 betting I simply disagree with your assertion that 4 betting is reducing JJ's value to that of 22. Isn't calling and folding if we don't hit a set turning JJ in to 22 as well? |
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Re: JJ hand against a relative unknown who *seems* to be tight?
I usually raise 4BB +1 after each limper and +1 if I´m OOP, that makes 4.50 pre-flop. The CO re-raise is really strange, is he donk enough to limp from the CO after 1 limper with KK+? You should seriously consider putting a 4-bet pre (and even calling a shove, I guess). But the way you played is fine, IMO. But the river play is horrible, you have to call him and make a note right after that.
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Re: JJ hand against a relative unknown who *seems* to be tight?
in this situation a would of called the river. your call on the turn makes no sens if you fold to the river. if he hit the king on the river well good for him but you have to call on a 5/1 pot. i also think you played it weak, i would of raise him on the flop to slow him down later in the hand and to see were i was.
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