I'M SO SICK OF THIS SPOT (QQ flops over pair in 3 bet pot) - Page 2

cfb1739 · #11 09-01-2007, 08:43 PM

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So why are you check/raising flop? As a bluff?

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B/c I play like a retard in these spots.

cfb1739 · #12 09-01-2007, 08:45 PM

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Why do you just call just call the 3bet PF instead of fourbetting ????

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4 bet and fold to shove? Seems terrible.

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4 betting might allow me to get away from better hands, but it makes all worse hands fold. That's why I don't do it.

cfb1739 · #13 09-01-2007, 08:48 PM

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Why do you just call just call the 3bet PF instead of fourbetting ????

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4 bet and fold to shove? Seems terrible.

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Errr ... who is folding to a shove ???

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I'm trying to find a line in this spot that doesn't end up w/ me being stacked. Calling a 5 bet shove w/o lengthy history pretty much guarantees that I'll get stacked b/c no sane player is shoving worse.

thac · #14 09-01-2007, 08:49 PM

I mean, if he's a standard TAG, you can play it like it's 10s or lower because he's hardly ever 3-betting you with JJ here. I mean, he might, but you're behind his 3-betting range if he is even remotely aware of position.

thedustbustr · #15 09-01-2007, 08:52 PM

call down, def go broke.

sh58 · #16 09-01-2007, 08:53 PM

reads please!!!

it's pretty standard against a standard non nit

cfb1739 · #17 09-01-2007, 08:54 PM

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call down, def go broke.

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R U serious?

Nielsio · #18 09-01-2007, 08:56 PM

Did you have anything on him at all? Any stats? What's his sn?

Gelford · #19 09-01-2007, 08:56 PM

OK ... I'll go easy on you, since you are fairly new to the site, but honestly this is a disaster of a post.

First of all there are no reads in OP ... WTF ???

Do you perceive as a NIT or is he a TARD

What is your image, have you been trying to run over the table or have you been playing a snuggly 15/12 game.

And finally, have you guys tangled or what ?

Why are you afraid of felting QQ pf, do you see his range as only AA/KK ... given that there already is money in the pot, are you sure he will not felt AK ???

And if he will felt AK pf, why do you insist on letting AA and KK stack you while letting AK get away with at most a cbet ?

Are you sure JJ and TT are not in his range ?

So basically you wan't to nickly and dime T9s for a cbet, and not fold it out pf, and turns out villian had AA and so now you whine and look for ways to not play for stacks ??

Or did you play your QQ for setvalue, when all comes to all (btw, I think the line, that you are looking for is the classic: Fold PF !! )

No offence, but a 200NL player should be able to post better .. really ! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

cfb1739 · #20 09-01-2007, 08:57 PM

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I mean, if he's a standard TAG, you can play it like it's 10s or lower because he's hardly ever 3-betting you with JJ here. I mean, he might, but you're behind his 3-betting range if he is even remotely aware of position.

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What do I do on the turn?