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Old 08-16-2007, 03:10 PM
mflip mflip is offline
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I'm till learning even though its been over 2 years.

I realized I should have pushed pre-flop after I re-raised pre-flop and got a call. I was then faced with the dilema on the flop when I only had psb left on a Q high flop.


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It's cool, me too. You could play for two years and it doesn't matter if you have no concept of stack /bet sizing.

It's easy now - if he checks, you PSB. If he bets and you are around 25%, you call. I'd just rather have AK with five cards to go or get a fold in this spot, which is why you push.

Barry

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We are in the SB, my line is raise/call and if called go & go.
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Old 08-16-2007, 03:12 PM
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Default Re: AK Facing Raise & Call

This is an extremely standard shove.
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Old 08-16-2007, 03:13 PM
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Just FOLD

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C'mon. Barry and some of the others can be pretty frank at times, but they're always thoughtful and constructive. What on earth do we collectively gain by this?
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Old 08-16-2007, 03:41 PM
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A well reasoned explination for a standard shove.
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Old 08-16-2007, 06:16 PM
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Default Re: AK Facing Raise & Call

I like a raise to 1800 and call a shove or if called do a go and go like mflip suggested. I like this because it shows more strength on your part with the smaller raise than the push and if called you are seeing five cards anyways as you are pushing every flop, but also gives him a chance to fold things out on the flop say if he has 99 and it comes down QJ4 etc.
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Old 08-16-2007, 06:42 PM
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Hero,

I'm beginning to worry that you need to take a little time and do a little reading on the side. Some of these questions are VERY fundamental. That's not a jab against you personally, but you should know exactly what to do with AK here without question.

Personally, I don't raise just to 1800 here. I push. There is already 1000 in the pot and both of these guys have 10K in chips. 1100 = ~22% of your stack, which is fine. When you raise to 1800, there is now 2900 in the pot and only 1350 to call. So, you may very well get a call, especially in a $4 and against these stacks. That would suck, because there would be 4200 in the pot and you have 2700, which is not a great spot to be in.

Finally, if you push, you have more FE against some players mid pairs and, conversely, a better chance to get all chips out of of AQ from others who think you are on a major squeeze.

Barry

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qft.
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Old 08-16-2007, 07:37 PM
SharkTank43 SharkTank43 is offline
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I just jam, an am not too disappointed if I take the pot down before the flop.
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Old 08-16-2007, 08:07 PM
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Hero,

I'm beginning to worry that you need to take a little time and do a little reading on the side. Some of these questions are VERY fundamental. That's not a jab against you personally, but you should know exactly what to do with AK here without question.

Personally, I don't raise just to 1800 here. I push. There is already 1000 in the pot and both of these guys have 10K in chips. 1100 = ~22% of your stack, which is fine. When you raise to 1800, there is now 2900 in the pot and only 1350 to call. So, you may very well get a call, especially in a $4 and against these stacks. That would suck, because there would be 4200 in the pot and you have 2700, which is not a great spot to be in.

Finally, if you push, you have more FE against some players mid pairs and, conversely, a better chance to get all chips out of of AQ from others who think you are on a major squeeze.

Barry

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