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Old 08-14-2007, 02:13 PM
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open shove turn

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Old 08-14-2007, 02:14 PM
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Default Re: A combo draw sees a turn

do whatever you would do if you had AK

i think crai is pretty sexy generally
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Old 08-14-2007, 02:16 PM
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What are we putting villain on guys?

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AQ, KQ, AJ, T9, lower flush draws, 88-TT, AK, and to a lesser degree 44,JJ, QJ and QQ.

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Do TAGs call 3bets with AJ usually?
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Old 08-14-2007, 02:18 PM
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Default Re: A combo draw sees a turn

if UTG bets the turn then he's never folding to a c/r
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Old 08-14-2007, 02:19 PM
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do whatever you would do if you had AK


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um...but if i have AK i want a call, here i want a fold!
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Old 08-14-2007, 02:20 PM
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do whatever you would do if you had AK


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um...but if i have AK i want a call, here i want a fold!

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qft. i don't like crai at all. looks like a clear shove or bet-call to me (whatever you think has the most fe).
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Old 08-14-2007, 02:21 PM
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Default Re: A combo draw sees a turn

I think CRAI on the turn is bad since he's never betting worse or bet folding or whatever. He has to realize this board hits your range so hard. AK got there, TT/JJ/QQ are obviously set to go. KK has a huge hand and AA is AA.

Just bet the turn again for about $90 obviously pot committing, and hope he gets nitty. Two reasons I think $90 is better than shoving: 1. I think it looks stronger. 2. If he just calls and you whiff the river then you can save the last $70.

I would play the flop the same.
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Old 08-14-2007, 02:21 PM
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Default Re: A combo draw sees a turn

If villain bets on the flop anywhere near the pot he's gonna be forced to call once we push, so I don't think crai has much FE. If we want FE we gotta push the turn, or crai flop.
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Old 08-14-2007, 02:21 PM
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crai flop works too (and yeah, i also take that line with big made hands)
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Old 08-14-2007, 02:22 PM
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bet/call. as has been said, he's never folding to a crai
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