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Old 08-10-2007, 10:46 PM
yellowbastard yellowbastard is offline
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Default Re: 50NL - folded 2nd flush - am I a donkey?

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This is a pretty bad fold. Yes you are good here way more than 33% of the time.


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Old 08-10-2007, 10:49 PM
tannenj tannenj is offline
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Default Re: 50NL - folded 2nd flush - am I a donkey?

standard weak-tight advice from this forum -- if you guys want to move up, stop putting every villain on near-nut hands.

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He is not going to shove a lower flush

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he will.

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If he wanted to push his draw he would have done it on the flop.

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not necessarily.

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he is more likely to just call with a set on the flop than to shove a draw on the turn.

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huh? if he calls with a set on this flop he's probably not very good. if he's not very good we have no reason to give him credit for a big hand on the turn. besides, when did i put a draw in his range?

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If he raise your flop bet your to oftendad to continue, and don't even have odds to draw.

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we're talking about the turn, not the flop. but if he shoved over my flop raise, i'd probably call.

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once he raises you on the turn that smaller flushes are a small part of his range.

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not sure what this means.

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don't disagree necessarly disagree with a turn bet but you have to muck when raised

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lol, the micro forum.
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Old 08-10-2007, 11:10 PM
L'ennemi. L'ennemi. is offline
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Default Re: 50NL - folded 2nd flush - am I a donkey?

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standard weak-tight advice from this forum -- if you guys want to move up, stop putting every villain on near-nut hands.

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who talks about weak tight? I probably shove the river as played.
And I'm not talking about a nut hands i'm talkin any made hands that beat king high
that's not the point: he if raises the turn given stack sizes, he is showing you don't have the odds to draw.
you have to be sure of your read to call
maybe if your count your jacks and your kings as out you can call be I think that it is marginal..
you don't see my point: I m' not saying that he can't shove the turn with a lower flush draw, i'm saying that you cannot discount a set if he shoves turnjust as you can't discount a flush draw (both would be pretty bad I think.
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Old 08-10-2007, 11:12 PM
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Default Re: 50NL - folded 2nd flush - am I a donkey?

i must apologize, totally misread the hand. i'm a moron, disregard all my posts in this thread.
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Old 08-11-2007, 12:54 AM
Andynan Andynan is offline
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Default Re: 50NL - folded 2nd flush - am I a donkey?

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i must apologize, totally misread the hand. i'm a moron, disregard all my posts in this thread.

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wtf ? i agreed with most of what you said !! [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]

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