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Old 08-09-2007, 06:33 PM
BigBiceps BigBiceps is offline
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Default Re: NL 100: Easy call versus 1P0kerboy.....but wait a sec, it might not be

Call.

From what I can tell by his posts, he suffers from overaggression and fps.
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Old 08-09-2007, 06:49 PM
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Default Re: NL 100: Easy call versus 1P0kerboy.....but wait a sec, it might no

Your 3-betting range is probably TT+, AQ+
PB 3bet calling range is probably also TT+, AQ+

Therefore it would be a bad push by PB here against my assumed range for you.
He knows this and will not bluff here. He most likely has AQ or AK, so i would fold, not happy about it though.

Also you should be checking behind on this flop.
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Old 08-09-2007, 06:55 PM
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Default Re: NL 100: Easy call versus 1P0kerboy.....but wait a sec, it might no

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I am only going on him saying Pboy adjusts to his aggro well.

I have seen quite a few hands where pboy tries to stick to his image and makes bad plays trying to over-aggress regs. That is why I call getting 2-1 with FD on the board.

Against a normal nit in this situation it is different, but vs pboy he overadjusts and tries to outplay a fair amount of time and that is what pushed it to a call for me.

It is still a close situation and I think marginal play no matter what you do.

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So you think given his 75bb stack Pboy still is opening and then calling 3bets with hands that would be naked FDs on this board? or Axhh type hands? Even against over aggro opponents and him over adjusting, I just can't put those hands in his range on this board...

If this was 100bb stacks for Pboy, I thin a call is much much better and standard, becasue then we can assume Pboy is shoving w/ some FE and we can put those speculative hands into his range...

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I just simply have to include some hands we have beat in his range. AJs could be an easy opening hand in MP3, and there are 40 other hands I'm sure he could open with too. If the re-raiser were someone he respected maybe I change my view but since he doesn't then nothing is discounted by the called 3-bet.

Maybe it is because I think I have picked off a couple of these types of plays by him before that makes me want to call it, I dunno, but I just think if you weight his range vs you (an aggro opponent) versus your with good odds on the call, I just think it brings it to a +EV situation.

Of course I could be wrong...His play could change drastically vs other opponents and his play could change drastically since I have last played him, but either way this can't possibly be majorly -EV or majorly +EV, so I think current image and his recent plays would be mixed in here in my decision as well as many other factors I would have to see with table conditions etc etc etc
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Old 08-09-2007, 06:56 PM
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Default Re: NL 100: Easy call versus 1P0kerboy.....but wait a sec, it might not be

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Call.

From what I can tell by his posts, he suffers from overaggression and fps.

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all that waiting around for top 3% of hands will do that to you. (I'm kidding, pokerboy, mkay?)
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Old 08-09-2007, 07:44 PM
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Default Re: NL 100: Easy call versus 1P0kerboy.....but wait a sec, it might no

In my recent database, I have 1P0kerboy check-raising a grand total of zero out of 52 possible actions on the flop after a pre-flop raise. It's never air, and you're pretty much never good.
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Old 08-09-2007, 11:28 PM
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Default Re: NL 100: Easy call versus 1P0kerboy.....but wait a sec, it might no

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Your 3-betting range is probably TT+, AQ+
PB 3bet calling range is probably also TT+, AQ+

Therefore it would be a bad push by PB here against my assumed range for you.
He knows this and will not bluff here. He most likely has AQ or AK, so i would fold, not happy about it though.

Also you should be checking behind on this flop.

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lmao at that being my 3 bet range you must not have played with me before
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Old 08-10-2007, 12:18 AM
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Default Re: NL 100: Easy call versus 1P0kerboy.....but wait a sec, it might no

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Your 3-betting range is probably TT+, AQ+
PB 3bet calling range is probably also TT+, AQ+

Therefore it would be a bad push by PB here against my assumed range for you.
He knows this and will not bluff here. He most likely has AQ or AK, so i would fold, not happy about it though.

Also you should be checking behind on this flop.

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lmao at that being my 3 bet range you must not have played with me before

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I have played with you. Obviously my reads are way off though [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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Old 08-10-2007, 12:19 AM
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Default Re: NL 100: Easy call versus 1P0kerboy.....but wait a sec, it might no

How often do you C-bet after 3-betting in position?

If it is frequent, I think there is the potential for PB not necessarily playing HIS holdings, but playing your entire range here.

The trouble with that is that you are getting such a great price to call. However, if your range is so wide that he thinks you are forced to fold things like KK/JJ/KQ/etc (along with random hands that missed badly) it might be ok.
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Old 08-10-2007, 02:19 AM
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Default Re: NL 100: Easy call versus 1P0kerboy.....but wait a sec, it might no

He has QQ. Still tough to fold but I think you are beat.
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Old 08-10-2007, 09:16 AM
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Default Re: NL 100: Easy call versus 1P0kerboy.....but wait a sec, it might no

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Does he normally open raise with 33? You said he is tight open raiser so I lean toward "no."

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Give a nit a little credit here.

From the hijack I'm opening just about all pairs.
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