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#11
08-05-2007, 09:57 PM
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Re: Very tough JJ hand
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this line at 2/4 is def not a bluff [/ QUOTE ] AT,KT,98....those are some hands that are not bluffing. Columbo, How am I misreading the pot size and pot odds offered? I'm not seeing it. 
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#13
08-05-2007, 10:05 PM
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Re: Very tough JJ hand
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[ QUOTE ] this line at 2/4 is def not a bluff [/ QUOTE ] AT,KT,98....those are some hands that are not bluffing. Columbo, How am I misreading the pot size and pot odds offered? I'm not seeing it. [/ QUOTE ] nvm, you're right it is 5-1
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#14
08-05-2007, 10:06 PM
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Re: Very tough JJ hand
What hands are you going to get value from then? Not disagreeing that T9 probably isn't shoving but the fact that not many hands are ever calling this river makes me focus on the bet itself as being bad. As I said earlier, b/f this board with these stacks should not be an option.
As played calling for the value of finding out what he has is worth my 5-1 here. Not calling vs. 'one of the top 2 players' here will only make playing him that much more difficult in the future.
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#15
08-05-2007, 10:07 PM
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Re: Tough JJ hand
Fold, berate him for hitting 2 outer.
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#17
08-05-2007, 10:20 PM
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Re: Tough JJ hand
dont bet/fold here because u price urself into a call when u bet
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#19
08-05-2007, 10:29 PM
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Re: Tough JJ hand
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[ QUOTE ] dont bet/fold here because u price urself into a call when u bet [/ QUOTE ] you realize there are other reasons to bet. like value. [/ QUOTE ] True, it does look like he could be calling all the way down with a ten.
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#20
08-05-2007, 10:30 PM
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Re: Tough JJ hand
If you think the the times that he has a hand worth a call on the river is greater then the times he either folds or raises (in which case we fold according to you) is worth the 'value' in that play well then (given stack sizes)....
Given meta implications and pot odds, I for one am not folding.
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