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Old 07-30-2007, 09:58 AM
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Default Re: AA.. the reason I might play a loosing session.

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The reraising prefop was indeed to isolate the BB because he's playing the hand as if he's holding JJ, QQ, KK, A:clubs:K:clubs: and if I'm unlucky TT.
Other then TT I can't really put him on a hand that beats mine here.

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Isolating the 3-bettor after two cold callers is going to work roughly 0% of the time. So the flop raise is good, but the flop cap is bad.
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Old 07-30-2007, 10:07 AM
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Default Re: AA.. the reason I might play a loosing session.

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If you stove his range (TT-AA, AQs+, AQ) and other villian's ranges (this is why reads are important), I'd be somewhat surprised if you have a very large equity advantage.

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Against that specific range your lead is huge (75%), and I think it's enough reason to raise the flop for value.

After the 3-bet, it's different, and I'd put button on a big draw now (FD or OESD) and BB on a set or 2-pair, maybe JJ+, QJ. Against those 2 ranges, you're nearly toast (14%), and it's time to go into call-down mode.
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Old 07-30-2007, 10:13 AM
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Default Re: AA.. the reason I might play a loosing session.

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If you stove his range (TT-AA, AQs+, AQ) and other villian's ranges (this is why reads are important), I'd be somewhat surprised if you have a very large equity advantage.

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Against that specific range your lead is huge (75%), and I think it's enough reason to raise the flop for value.


[/ QUOTE ]If you stove his range (TT-AA, AQs+, AQ) and other villian's ranges (this is why reads are important), I'd be somewhat surprised if you have a very large equity advantage.

Reading comp. FTW
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Old 07-30-2007, 10:21 AM
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Default Re: AA.. the reason I might play a loosing session.

dont cap the flop. AA is not very strong on this flop.

I'd like to share with you some advice a friend of mine gave me after a horrible live session.

"you know what your problem is? you're the type of player that waits til he gets Aces or Kings, overplays them every single time, and then gets pissed when people playing "crap" keep raking your pots. You really should learn to play flops, instead of playing 2 card poker."
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Old 07-30-2007, 10:22 AM
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Default Re: AA.. the reason I might play a loosing session.

stats on the button:
18/0/1 on 33 hands

And here he's going with the cap preflop, so what range should we put him on?
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Old 07-30-2007, 10:44 AM
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Default Re: AA.. the reason I might play a loosing session.

"dont cap the flop. AA is not very strong on this flop."

I think it is strong on the flop, but can be out drawn easily on the turn and river.
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Old 07-30-2007, 11:03 AM
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Default Re: AA.. the reason I might play a loosing session.

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stats on the button:
18/0/1 on 33 hands

And here he's going with the cap preflop, so what range should we put him on?

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Anything he'd call two cold with, which, judging from his stats, is most of his range.
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Old 07-30-2007, 11:07 AM
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Default Re: AA.. the reason I might play a loosing session.

So I ran the hand, BB on TT+, AQs+, AQ+ and button on 18% handrange.


Operation completed... 578,531 games processed in 2 seconds.

Board: Tc 9c 8s
Dead:

Equity Win Tie Loss Hand
Player 1: 51.331 % 49.845 % 3.566 % 46.589 % AsAd
Player 2: 22.970 % 21.179 % 4.176 % 74.645 % TT+, AQs+, AQ+
Player 3: 25.699 % 24.459 % 3.075 % 72.466 % 55+, A9+, A7s+, KT+, K9s, QTs+



The equity advantage is indeed very thin, so how should with play it considering these numbers?
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Old 07-30-2007, 11:20 AM
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Default Re: AA.. the reason I might play a loosing session.

You're forgetting SB.

Edit: that equity advantage is not thin and dictates a raise.
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Old 07-30-2007, 11:26 AM
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Default Re: AA.. the reason I might play a loosing session.

Oh indeed, 51% against 2 people is high [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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