Overbetting?

[michaelantoi]

Basically, you are putting villain down to a range of like 4 hands or so and i'm not sure if I agree with such a tight range.

33
TT
JK
JQ
Maybe J9

[michaelantoi]

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I'm not sure if I like this play to be honest. Putting him on the lone J is pretty thin.

Sure if I know he has a J i'm shoving, but how can we be sure.
I would honestly prefer to be for value here instead of shoving and losing $9 (or so) worth of value.

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What does he call for $9 that he doesn't call for a push?

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I'm saying what about missed draws? Do we push if we know villain has missed draws? What's the point in this move?

Second pair plus missed draws is also a possibility. Are we also shoving here?

You ask a good question, i'm not sure how to answer it. But it's definately made me think

[Khaos4k]

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I'm not sure if I like this play to be honest. Putting him on the lone J is pretty thin.

Sure if I know he has a J i'm shoving, but how can we be sure.
I would honestly prefer to be for value here instead of shoving and losing $9 (or so) worth of value.

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What does he call for $9 that he doesn't call for a push?

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I'm saying what about missed draws? Do we push if we know villain has missed draws? What's the point in this move?

Second pair plus missed draws is also a possibility. Are we also shoving here?

You ask a good question, i'm not sure how to answer it. But it's definately made me think

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With missed draws, villain easily dumps his useless high card hand. At microlimits we almost never see a bluff raise on the river.

Again with second pair, does villain really want to call another pot sized bet? I don't see many calls from 2nd pair against a standard unknown villain.

So, the most likely hand that calls a pot sized bet on the flop and turn are draws and top pair. Draws fold when they miss, top pair just made trips, and is happy to call any bet.