NL200 AK TPTK vs shortish stack

[Raised2Win]

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I mis-read stack sizes the first time. I did say it's much closer, but I'm still leaning towards a fold because you're behind way too often.

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Sure we are often behind. but getting 3-1 is a huge deal here and im taking it. We have to average 25-75 or better here and I think we have it.

[blunty31]

Ok, Guys I get it the checkraise was horrible. But b/f is not too weak? so were betting the flop as if it completely missed us? what about just a c/c on the flop?

[Raised2Win]

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Ok, Guys I get it the checkraise was horrible. But b/f is not too weak? so were betting the flop as if it completely missed us? what about just a c/c on the flop?

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if we bet and get raised, we are not commited. if we check raise then we are commited. And I dont think its weak to fold if we bet and get raised, not that we should always fold, depends completely on our opponent.

check call is the way to go if we are not sure that we want to get it all in on flop. I would vary between betting and check calling.

[Phresh]

1) More preflop.
2) A check-raise on this flop is pretty bad.


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so were betting the flop as if it completely missed us?

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Wait, what?


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Why would any reasonbale villain do anything else but push this flop with AQ being 50bb deep after 3betted preflop.

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Because 50xBBs Villains who minraise preflop aren't reasonable, they're idiots. Check-raising this flop and folding TPTK is terrible. This is an easy call as played, but just leading is the best.

[Erudito]

Looks like UTG+1 has QQ/JJ. Definitely a set here. Tough position to fold. Call.

[Johnes Benjamin]

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Looks like UTG+1 has QQ/JJ. Definitely a set here. Tough position to fold. Call.

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LOL


I bet more pre against shorty and make this easier.
As played I probably c/c. maybe b/f.

Given the check raise, which I too hate, I'd probably just call this and hope for a miracle. The only chance you have is if he's major tilting with KQ or something, and shortstack makes major suckage more probable, but if for nothing else I'm not folding for image's sake.