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#12
06-28-2007, 03:54 PM
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Re: help w/ my line from 200PLO
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I think check/calling is significantly worse than bet/folding. [/ QUOTE ] Nope, check calling allows you to see the turn for the same price as a bet giving you some outs instead of none if the other guy likes his hand. Plus it induces bluffs. Heads up this is an easy check call as you have a hand you want to see the river before committing money to. Three handed you should be folding this, but not heads up. 
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#13
06-28-2007, 09:26 PM
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Re: help w/ my line from 200PLO
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[ QUOTE ] I think check/calling is significantly worse than bet/folding. [/ QUOTE ] Nope, check calling allows you to see the turn for the same price as a bet giving you some outs instead of none if the other guy likes his hand. Plus it induces bluffs. Heads up this is an easy check call as you have a hand you want to see the river before committing money to. Three handed you should be folding this, but not heads up. [/ QUOTE ] If you check call your going to end up committing more money to this hand then you want to, regardless of what comes on the turn. Your hand isn't strong enough to induce bluffs. Also, what strong hand would you ever c/c with on this flop?
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#14
06-28-2007, 10:19 PM
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Re: help w/ my line from 200PLO
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I think check/calling is significantly worse than bet/folding. [/ QUOTE ] Nope, check calling allows you to see the turn for the same price as a bet giving you some outs instead of none if the other guy likes his hand. Plus it induces bluffs. Heads up this is an easy check call as you have a hand you want to see the river before committing money to. Three handed you should be folding this, but not heads up. [/ QUOTE ] If you check call your going to end up committing more money to this hand then you want to, regardless of what comes on the turn. Your hand isn't strong enough to induce bluffs. Also, what strong hand would you ever c/c with on this flop? [/ QUOTE ] In a 5 handed game, flopping 2 pair heads up is feltable depending on the texture of the board. This is a hand where you want to see certain obvious draws miss before committing. I certainly would in a shorthanded game call down with a flopped 2 pair if the straights and flushes don't get there.
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#15
06-28-2007, 11:33 PM
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Re: help w/ my line from 200PLO
Are we talking about the same hand?
This isn't heads up to the flop, it's 3-ways. Also, the texture of this board is horrible. There are very, very few opponents against whom I would be willing to felt on this board. Also, if you ARE willing to felt for some odd reason you should do so by betting and raising. You don't only have to worry about the draws but also a higher 2pr and sets. Basically you're hoping for a black 6 to fall. There is definitely a place for check calling down against over aggro opponents. I have called down successfully with as little as middle pair in the right situation. The texture of the board and your opponents tendancies should be the primary consideration, not the strength of your hand.
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#17
06-29-2007, 09:01 AM
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Re: help w/ my line from 200PLO
ship it holla
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#18
06-29-2007, 09:17 AM
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Re: help w/ my line from 200PLO
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Actually I always c/b for less than full pot. [/ QUOTE ] i find this a great play for all the reasons stated. about 2/3 - 3/4 is perfect for these bets whether you have hit or not, its a very underused play
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#19
06-29-2007, 09:28 AM
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Re: help w/ my line from 200PLO
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Nobody bets less than pot on the flop with KT+ so c-betting less than pot is not very optimal. [/ QUOTE ] KT or a set is fine for betting half the pot for that very reason, players often see it as weakness and raise you up with flush draws. Half pot bets are very effective in games with aggressive players.
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