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#11
05-30-2007, 09:58 PM
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Re: 2/4 Bluff the turn?
i'd check. if i raised the flop it'd be because I thought he had a draw a high % of the time and would call or fold to a raise. on turn one draw hit and another (axs) hit top pair and wont fold. I'd check and hope to check it down
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#12
05-30-2007, 10:19 PM
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Re: 2/4 Bluff the turn?
best card to bet; IMO he can only call here with QT or Axcc. Bet $125. If he flatcalls, shut down on riv unless river is nonclub 9.
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#13
05-31-2007, 05:20 AM
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Re: 2/4 Bluff the turn?
check, not to completely give up though. betting is a mistake. you can fold him off king crappy kicker on the river and Axss will bet that river so you save money against that hand, because that's never folding to a turn bet, and save money against QT. The only downside is 9t sees the river, but thats a slim downside. Also, a worst hand is never calling a turn bet so you aren't missing any value with this line either.
In short, any hands you fold now, you fold on nearly all river cards plus you save $ against ones that would call.
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#14
05-31-2007, 05:25 AM
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Re: 2/4 Bluff the turn?
I tend to disagree that anyone if folding a hand like QK on a blank river if you check back this turn
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#15
05-31-2007, 05:37 AM
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Re: 2/4 Bluff the turn?
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check, not to completely give up though. betting is a mistake. you can fold him off king crappy kicker on the river and Axss will bet that river so you save money against that hand, because that's never folding to a turn bet, and save money against QT. The only downside is 9t sees the river, but thats a slim downside. Also, a worst hand is never calling a turn bet so you aren't missing any value with this line either. In short, any hands you fold now, you fold on nearly all river cards plus you save $ against ones that would call. [/ QUOTE ] Very good points, but do you not think betting here looks way stronger than betting river? As above poster mentioned, KQ may call riv but fold to a bet here.
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#17
05-31-2007, 06:47 AM
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Re: 2/4 Bluff the turn?
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if youre just gonna copy my advice...why post? (btw you can never go wrong copying my advice) [/ QUOTE ] To make people think I know what I'm talking about? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] I never saw your reply when I posted.
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#18
05-31-2007, 12:45 PM
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Re: 2/4 Bluff the turn?
Ok, I saw this hand completely differently than everyone it seems. I made the flop raise and immediately regretted it and expected him to push over the top with a draw or made hand, and I can't call that. This is pretty lame, but after the hand I was convinced that folding the flop is best. I don't find that TAGs lead weak pairs too often; it's usually a draw or a big hand. I could be wrong though.
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#19
05-31-2007, 01:17 PM
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Re: 2/4 Bluff the turn?
may be a small factor, but I'd make it more like $80 with the flop raise. I think psychologically $70 looks more like "you donk, i raise with ATC" whereas $80 does not. I guess $70 would be a good raise size then with a strong hand, but to keep with my overall gameplan, I like to keep my raise-the-flop-donk sizes consistent.
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#20
05-31-2007, 01:40 PM
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Re: 2/4 Bluff the turn?
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may be a small factor, but I'd make it more like $80 with the flop raise. I think psychologically $70 looks more like "you donk, i raise with ATC" whereas $80 does not. I guess $70 would be a good raise size then with a strong hand, but to keep with my overall gameplan, I like to keep my raise-the-flop-donk sizes consistent. [/ QUOTE ] Im not sure what to do on the turn but I was thinking this too as I read OP
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