No more ePassporte???

[MiltonFriedman]

Let me guess here. does logging in mean you accept the T&Cs as amended ???

[Jeffiner99]

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Even if this is the correct text - so what.

If they thought your use of Epass was illegal now, they would stop it.

Until recently the vast majority of their business was porn. You'd want them to shut down accounts trying to access child porn wouldnt you?

Of course if they want to put themselves immediately out of business they could take the few hundred some folks leave in an account for doing something epass first allowed them to do....Do I see the sky falling? Did izzy spend some time with gaboon?

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Oh you fellas love confutations and drama. I just created a thread of something I had found both scary and interesting.

I even did a follow post stating that no one is really having to many problems and those that did got the problem resolved. Even stated all the sites I checked with still allow US transactions through epassporte.

Why is it that I allways get attacked here on twoplustwo. Most of you fellas are a bunch of ass holes.

Suck it!

Anyways, I still feel its scary that epassporte is reserving themselves the right to take your funds if your account is closed.

Oh yeah skall [censored] you and viper!!!

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Izzie,
Thank you so much for posting! That is VERY valuable information. I just ran to the bank. It seems to me as if Epassporte is gearing up to save themselves from any "trouble" that Neteller may be having, so if the feds come after them they will just take your money and run and we will have no recourse at all. No waiting 75 days and hoping some money will be returned. Just goodbye dollars. And after all, they warned us.

I suspect they may have been hit with a subpoena or a warning of a subpoena or something. I would not keep a dollar on that site if I were you.

In the meantime, I hope they stay open, but it is not looking good.

This has been very valuable information to all of us. I can't thank you enough.

I agree with Milton. This is VERY disconcerting information and we should all take heed.

[Archon_Wing]

Calm down and check the zoo thread.

And remember, unlike Neteller, who had mainly gambling clients, Epassporte has porn too! "I'm not gambling, I just watch loads of porn!" [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

But seriously I would only use epassporte to deposit anyways and to move money between sites anyways.

P.S. I wouldn't leave any significant cash in there.

[Jeffiner99]

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Even if this is the correct text - so what.

If they thought your use of Epass was illegal now, they would stop it.

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No, this gives them the right to keep your money if they think what you are doing is illegal. Why stop you when they will just confiscate? I would guess that what they think is illegal is what some government agency tells them is illegal and perhaps they haven't been told yet.

But any site that says that it has a right to keep your money based on their determination of something, anything, is not good.

[TheEngineer]

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P.S. I wouldn't leave any significant cash in any ewallet.

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[Barrin6]

"You do not have the legal right from which to transfer funds"
If they could clarify this alot more then I would feel much safer

[MiltonFriedman]

LOL, this is one of the real ironies of the First Amendment.

Poker, which for a price teaches socially useful skills, is NOT protected, except under the limited protections afforded commercial speech. Porn however, for adults, is protected and, under ACLU v Gonzales, DOJ is enjoined from overly intrusive enforcement activities against someone using the Internet for essentially whacking off all day and night.

[Archon_Wing]

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LOL, this is one of the real ironies of the First Amendment.

Poker, which for a price teaches socially useful skills, is NOT protected, except under the limited protections afforded commercial speech. Porn however, for adults, is protected and, under ACLU v Gonzales, DOJ is enjoined from overly intrusive enforcement activities against someone using the Internet for essentially whacking off all day and night.

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Well now we know the names of our future payment processors. Maybe Pornostars, Full Whack Porno, and Ultimate Porno

[MiltonFriedman]

First, you are missing the catch-all nature of the provision, it has NO mention of illegality. It simply says that they can seize your money if they close your account:

'8. Account Closing Service Fee. If Your Account is closed by Us and there
are funds remaining in Your Account, We reserve the absolute right to
charge Your Account an Account Closing Service Fee up to the balance in
Your Account."

Anyway, pretend DOJ sends them a letter which says, you can stay in the porn business, but,

"Cease and desist any gaming related business and close all US player accounts which have any deposits to online poker since the beginning of time or the UIGE Act."

The point is that, epassporte can seize your funds, "in our absolute discretion". .... which then makes a prospective settlement of any threatened DOJ charges against them a LOT easier to fund.

Who represents you ? Remember, you agreed to this T&C.

So, prudence seems to say Do NOT keep any epassporte balance, use them only as a cnduit if you need to do so to deposit or, with a some interim risk, to cash out.

FWIW, Epassporte also expressly says they are NOT your trustee, agent or representative for any funds they hold.

[Jeffiner99]

I got it. Why not open some games ON the porn sites?