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Old 04-06-2007, 02:08 AM
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Default Re: C/R for value, fold to shove? 400NL

not a single person has yet to give me any reasoning or hand ranges.....

please spell it out for me if it is so simple..
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Old 04-06-2007, 04:01 AM
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Default Re: C/R for value, fold to shove? 400NL

hes got to think u have a 6 or better here. his bet is so fishy, 24 into 60ish then shove over your chk/r, seems like hes v strong and thinks your stacking off with your 6 anyway.

i sorta like the fold, but would still be calling this.
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Old 04-06-2007, 04:05 AM
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Default Re: C/R for value, fold to shove? 400NL

Bet

the

turn
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Old 04-06-2007, 04:19 AM
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Default Re: C/R for value, fold to shove? 400NL

turn check is so so bad imho. Never ever do that except against me [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 04-06-2007, 04:21 AM
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Default Re: C/R for value, fold to shove? 400NL

I don't understand the check on the turn.
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Old 04-06-2007, 04:26 AM
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Default Re: C/R for value, fold to shove? 400NL

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not a single person has yet to give me any reasoning or hand ranges.....

please spell it out for me if it is so simple..

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because he is almost never going to shove a boat in your face like that when your turn line looks strange/bluffy.

i mean it looks like you're giving up but now you sense weakness from his weak turn bet and you are going to bluff again.

bad turn check btw.
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Old 04-06-2007, 05:03 AM
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Default Re: C/R for value, fold to shove? 400NL

You lose sooo much value checking the turn.

Way too often he checks behind, and you just get a river bet, not to mention you give a free card.
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Old 04-06-2007, 09:17 AM
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Default Re: C/R for value, fold to shove? 400NL

im sure you could make a case for having an underrepped hand since you check the turn and most good people arent doing that with trips since you lose all your sklansky monies. it is weird sometimes when tight people 3 bet you all in on paired boards, idk how he would play a huge made hand, but if most people are checkraised here, i would think the majority of the time they call with lock hands in case you're semibluffing so you can fire the river.

i wouldnt be surprised if this was something like a slowplayed KK from pf and now he's overplaying it. basically, call.
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Old 04-06-2007, 09:23 AM
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Default Re: C/R for value, fold to shove? 400NL

why do you think pf is good if you think he's only sticking his stack in with the nuts?
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