C/R for value, fold to shove? 400NL
 

Villan is new. 17/6 over just 100 hands...

He shoved faster than the speed of sound!!

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

UTG ($426)
MP ($844.10)
CO ($238.15)
Button ($447)
SB ($414)
Hero ($456.15)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $12</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls $8.

Flop: ($26) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $20</font>, MP calls $20.

Turn: ($66) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets $24</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $88</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $812.1</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $966.10

Re: C/R for value, fold to shove? 400NL
 

don't fold wtf

Re: C/R for value, fold to shove? 400NL
 

yeha i agree, don't fold.

Re: C/R for value, fold to shove? 400NL
 

call faster than the speed of light!

ok, not that fast.. but you can't fold.

Re: C/R for value, fold to shove? 400NL
 

i agree that this is a call, but I think my reasoning is off.

Are we calling because villan is unknown, overbet/shoving, or both? Or is his quick shove a timing tell?

This is a fold vs alot of reg's..

Re: C/R for value, fold to shove? 400NL
 

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i agree that this is a call, but I think my reasoning is off.

Are we calling because villan is unknown, overbet/shoving, or both?

This is a fold vs alot of reg's..

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I don't see a lot of "regs" making that raise with a full house. Why would he want to push you off sets/straights and flush draws?

Re: C/R for value, fold to shove? 400NL
 

Instacall. You shouldn't have needed to be told that though.

Re: C/R for value, fold to shove? 400NL
 

call and brag about how much you make in a month.

seriously what is shoving here that beats you? very little, so call.

Re: C/R for value, fold to shove? 400NL
 

Hand range please? A/6 and air seem to be the only hands i beat? Am i way off here?

Did i misrepresent my hand? I thought i turned it face up as str8/trips.

Did i accidentally represent a draw here?

Re: C/R for value, fold to shove? 400NL
 

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Hand range please? A/6 and air seem to be the only hands i beat? Am i way off here?

Did i misrepresent my hand? I thought i turned it face up as str8/trips.

Did i accidentally represent a draw here?

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if you did that, you made an incredibly foolish play against which your opponent can play perfectly.

most opponents do not play perfectly, and you can exploit that tendency by calling this bet.