First limit play in a while - 10/20 JJ, 26BB pot final

[cgrohman]

Me too, I dont see where he can though unless he knows the intial raiser is going to 3 bet.

[cgrohman]

I can't. Ask yourself why OP called the turn.

[poker1O1]

definitely fold flop. our backdoor spade draw might tie us to a pot w/ a 2nd best draw. even if we are ahead, which is doubtful, we'll likely have to dodge an A and a K.

[cgrohman]

But he could have 11 outs

[poker1O1]

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But he could have 11 outs

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on the flop?

[PokerAmateur4]

"1.) Lead the Flop."
What did everyone think of this, why would I do that? Aren't I likely against QQ+?

[rafiki]

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"1.) Lead the Flop."
What did everyone think of this, why would I do that? Aren't I likely against QQ+?

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In which case what do you feel is worse ? Calling two cold (as seen here), or leading out and finding out just how strong they are ? By the time you lead out and it gets raised, maybe the next 2 are forced to fold to the 2 cold that you called. At the very least now it's back on you with a much easier decision and field. If you bet and it's 2-3 cold back, you can toss it. In my humble opinion.

[mongidig]

Did you three bet preflop for value or did you think you could isolate the MP?

Is three betting here standard?