stars is trying reeeeeal hard to bust me (400BBs + pot)

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yeah your read makes it tough to say fold but that's what it looks like

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Against a regular and sane opponent I would fold this easily. But this guy I really dont know how thinks, I mean he will call a cont. bet with J8o on a K45 board. Also I think he would push any flush there, most of the likely ones are higher though.

I'm getting pretty decent odds too, call about 1100$ to win 4400$.

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I thought it was worse odds than that. Isn't it call $1289 to win $3162. Seems like a higher flush, but still hard to fold.

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ah, my bad. It is 1289$, my brain is toasted. And I meant 4400$ as the total potsize after I call [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img], not what was in there...

[jamiezig]

if he only pots river with air and monsters, it seems raising river is -EV unless he'll rr bluff w/air.

as played, crying call.

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if he only pots river with air and monsters, it seems raising river is -EV unless he'll rr bluff w/air.

as played, crying call.

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Obviously nothing is written in stone with this guy. Also I'm not sure what this guy would consider a 'monster'

[Jeff W]

I would absolutely not fold here.

[Parlay Slow]

You have half your stack in the middle vs a donk and made a backdoor flush... call

[Hindsight2020]

calllclacllalcllclalcllclallccalllllllll

if you were as deep as him, THEN you can CONSIDER folding

EDIT: still loling at anybody thinking this is an "easy" fold, IF it's a fold at all, it's super close

[T-God]

Please don't fold!

[ArturiusX]

You guys are nuts, we're smoked here.

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why cant he be doing this with 57/79 or a set?

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come on.

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Even if his range is {flush} we are getting close to odds to call...

I see no reason to think his range is this narrow.

you do realize we're only 220BBs deep, right??

if you fold here, what do you need to call? J high flush? Q?

I suppose it depends a bit on your side card.

[aejones]

do whatever you want. if i'm playing good poker, it's a fold, but it's closer with a Q or J of clubs.

if you want to call, it can't be awful only vs this guy, but you have better reads than we do