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FlyingStart 02-20-2007 06:28 PM

stars is trying reeeeeal hard to bust me (400BBs + pot)
 
Villain in the hand is basically the reason I have not quit my session yet. He runs at 57/7 with postflop aggr.fact. of 1.2 in 200 hands. His favorite line is limp-call preflop, then checkcall the flop AND the turn. And then make a weid donkbet on the river, mostly pot, but sometimes over pot. He will do this with air and monsters. He is also a huge callingstation, and have called me down with like 4th pair on A high boards with flushes possible.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $10 BB (5 handed) internettexasholdem.com

SB ($1577)
BB ($1133)
UTG ($4692.60)
Hero ($2227)
Button ($985)

Preflop: Hero is MP with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls $10, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $50</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG calls $40.

Flop: ($115) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $88</font>, UTG calls $88.

Turn: ($291) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero checks.

River: ($291) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $290</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $800</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $4554.6</font>, Hero ?

ArturiusX 02-20-2007 06:28 PM

Re: stars is trying reeeeeal hard to bust me (400BBs + pot)
 
Easy fold.

king_of_drafts 02-20-2007 06:35 PM

Re: stars is trying reeeeeal hard to bust me (400BBs + pot)
 
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Easy fold.

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I think it's pretty sick given the opponent, but I muck

JKratzer 02-20-2007 06:39 PM

Re: stars is trying reeeeeal hard to bust me (400BBs + pot)
 
yeah your read makes it tough to say fold but that's what it looks like

FlyingStart 02-20-2007 06:46 PM

Re: stars is trying reeeeeal hard to bust me (400BBs + pot)
 
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yeah your read makes it tough to say fold but that's what it looks like

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Against a regular and sane opponent I would fold this easily. But this guy I really dont know how thinks, I mean he will call a cont. bet with J8o on a K45 board. Also I think he would push any flush there, most of the likely ones are higher though.

I'm getting pretty decent odds too, call about 1100$ to win 4400$.

Reef 02-20-2007 06:50 PM

Re: stars is trying reeeeeal hard to bust me (400BBs + pot)
 
why cant he be doing this with 57/79 or a set?

luckychewy 02-20-2007 06:57 PM

Re: stars is trying reeeeeal hard to bust me (400BBs + pot)
 
vs. this guy i am def not folding this getting the price u are getting, though i obv see merit in doing so. i just think he will show up with stuff u beat too often to fold.

EDIT: i should mention something that would sway it closer to a fold is that a lot of cards in the hands that peel the flop with backdoor club draws are not accounted for. maybe it's closer than i think, but i know in the heat of the moment vs. this type of player i would beat him into the pot.

Melchiades 02-20-2007 06:59 PM

Re: stars is trying reeeeeal hard to bust me (400BBs + pot)
 
He obviously loves his hand here. But does he love a set on this board? A straight? The possibility of this and a few lower flushes around and I think you have to call getting those odds.

siralos 02-20-2007 07:02 PM

Re: stars is trying reeeeeal hard to bust me (400BBs + pot)
 
I would like a call here given that the opponent is really bad. I think he'll have a worse hand more then 1/4. Lower flushes are possible, why would he not shove a runner runner flush? He might even shove a set. Hard spot though.

fanmail 02-20-2007 07:04 PM

Re: stars is trying reeeeeal hard to bust me (400BBs + pot)
 
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yeah your read makes it tough to say fold but that's what it looks like

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Against a regular and sane opponent I would fold this easily. But this guy I really dont know how thinks, I mean he will call a cont. bet with J8o on a K45 board. Also I think he would push any flush there, most of the likely ones are higher though.

I'm getting pretty decent odds too, call about 1100$ to win 4400$.

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I thought it was worse odds than that. Isn't it call $1289 to win $3162. Seems like a higher flush, but still hard to fold.


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