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Old 01-22-2007, 08:50 PM
Pudge714 Pudge714 is offline
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Default Re: $60 live - I made a play - whaddya think?

Preflop isn't a fold.
Why do people assume if you call preflop you need to be willing to stack off with tp?
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Old 01-22-2007, 09:22 PM
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Default Re: $60 live - I made a play - whaddya think?

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Preflop isn't a fold.
Why do people assume if you call preflop you need to be willing to stack off with tp?

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Calling preflop is probably better but you need to lay down a hand like this on the flop. If you cant do that, folding preflop is better.
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Old 01-22-2007, 09:26 PM
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Default Re: $60 live - I made a play - whaddya think?

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Preflop isn't a fold.
Why do people assume if you call preflop you need to be willing to stack off with tp?

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Calling preflop is probably better but you need to lay down a hand like this on the flop. If you cant do that, folding preflop is better.

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What implied odds are you getting? What sort of hand is going to pay you off for the times you pay and lose the $200 in tourney chips?


It seems to me that you get paid off only when you hit two pair or better (excluding when the Ace trips), and even then, you won't get paid of everytime. I think you're getting insufficient implied odds here for this to happen.

If an Ace comes on the flop, how do you play it? Check-call and pay off a higher kicker? Bet, and force the QQ to fold, and A-higher to raise you?
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Old 01-22-2007, 09:30 PM
Paul B. Paul B. is offline
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Default Re: $60 live - I made a play - whaddya think?

Calling preflop is fine if you're not a postflop donk. With that said, OP should fold preflop.
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Old 01-22-2007, 11:57 PM
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Default Re: $60 live - I made a play - whaddya think?

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Preflop isn't a fold.
Why do people assume if you call preflop you need to be willing to stack off with tp?

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Calling preflop is probably better but you need to lay down a hand like this on the flop. If you cant do that, folding preflop is better.

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What implied odds are you getting? What sort of hand is going to pay you off for the times you pay and lose the $200 in tourney chips?


It seems to me that you get paid off only when you hit two pair or better (excluding when the Ace trips), and even then, you won't get paid of everytime. I think you're getting insufficient implied odds here for this to happen.

If an Ace comes on the flop, how do you play it? Check-call and pay off a higher kicker? Bet, and force the QQ to fold, and A-higher to raise you?

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There isnt anything wrong with folding preflop, but calling preflop can be profitable if you can lay the hand down if you need to. Basically what Handsome said is right on.
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Old 01-23-2007, 12:44 AM
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Default Re: $60 live - I made a play - whaddya think?

I would never fold pf on the flop i probally crai the flop
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