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Old 12-18-2006, 05:56 AM
ZBTHorton ZBTHorton is offline
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Default Re: Someone put me out of my misery...stars v Full Tilt, FPPs vRB

40% of hands at NL200 6-max are raked .40 cents.
15.5% of hands at NL200 6-max are raked 2.00$

I got 23.31/hour 8 tabling. You can do the math.
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Old 12-18-2006, 04:42 PM
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Default Re: Someone put me out of my misery...stars v Full Tilt, FPPs vRB

Thanks for the information. Here's what I got for $100 NL Full Ring since 11/1:

40855 hands total

MGR = $2838

Hands with at least $.4 of rake
16523

Hands with at least $3 of rake ($3 since its full ring)
1923

16523 + 1923 = 18446 base VPP
18446 * 2.5 = 46115 FPP (Platinum)
18446 * 3.5 = 64561 FPP (Supernova)

46115 * .015 = $692 (Platinum)
64561 * .015 = $968 (Supernova)

$692 / $2838 = 24% RB (Platinum)
$968 / $2838 = 34% RB (Supernova)
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Old 12-18-2006, 06:31 PM
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Default Re: Someone put me out of my misery...stars v Full Tilt, FPPs vRB

6 Max NL $200

12881 Hands
MGR= $1,552


Hands with $0.4 rake = 5,132
Hands with $2.00 rake = 2,001

5132+2001=7,133 Base FPPS

7,133*3.5=24,965

24,965*$.015=$374

$374/$1,552 = 24% RB

$200 NL Full Ring

48,970 Hands
MGR = $4,902
Hands with $0.4 rake = 25,165
Hands with $3 rake = 5,082

25,165+5,082= 30,247

30,247 * 3.5 = 105865

105865*$.015= $1,588

$1,588/$4,902 = 32%RB

So I'm losing 8% rakeback by playing 6-max rather than full-ring...that is a joke of a system from Stars.
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Old 12-18-2006, 08:13 PM
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Default Re: Someone put me out of my misery...stars v Full Tilt, FPPs vRB

Um, based in the UK = Party!?

You get rakeback, datamining, and the players are absolute idiots. Stars is full of TAGs, Party has VPIPS of 80, 60, 50 everywhere. I've just gone back from PS and my profits have gone up quite a bit. Why anyone would want to play elsewhere if not based in the US is beyond me.
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Old 12-18-2006, 08:21 PM
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Default Re: Someone put me out of my misery...stars v Full Tilt, FPPs vRB

FTP is deducting freerolls, processing fees, and bonuses from MGR before getting 27%. Stars doesn't. Also you don't need a 3rd party on Stars.
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Old 12-18-2006, 08:51 PM
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Um, based in the UK = Party!?

You get rakeback, datamining, and the players are absolute idiots. Stars is full of TAGs, Party has VPIPS of 80, 60, 50 everywhere. I've just gone back from PS and my profits have gone up quite a bit. Why anyone would want to play elsewhere if not based in the US is beyond me.

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Party still that juicy?? Maybe I will look into it...I have unmentionable but haven't played there in a long while...is it 25%?? Can't actually remember.
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Old 12-18-2006, 08:55 PM
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FTP is deducting freerolls, processing fees, and bonuses from MGR before getting 27%. Stars doesn't. Also you don't need a 3rd party on Stars.

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I love stars as a site, software, customer service everything and have played there pretty excluisively for the last year. I was thinking of moving because I thought I could get a better deal on rb at FullTilt and i've just got into datamining which you can't do at Stars. As it turns out the RB is no better than the VIP program...but now I am annoyed that I am getting ripped off as a 6-max player compared to full ring players...there is no pleasing some people!!! I've emailed support so I will see what they say.
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Old 12-18-2006, 09:31 PM
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Default Re: Someone put me out of my misery...stars v Full Tilt, FPPs vRB

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As it turns out the RB is no better than the VIP program...but now I am annoyed that I am getting ripped off as a 6-max player compared to full ring players...there is no pleasing some people!!! I've emailed support so I will see what they say.

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Maybe they will cut the benefits for full games ....
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Old 12-19-2006, 12:59 AM
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