Please rank river decision - Page 2

27offsooot · #11 12-07-2006, 12:19 AM

I thought more along the lines of folding out QQ/ TT/ and garbage J hands.

PokerSparky · #12 12-07-2006, 12:31 AM

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I like B/F as a "value-defense move" expecting to get called by a better hand sometimes, but also Ace high often enough. Seems less -ev than check/anything. Not sure if I like C/F or C/R 2nd. I think C/C sucks here because a bluff from his side is so rarely successful on this board (does anybody ever fold AQ in your spot? I don't think so).

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Yes, b/f is far better than c/c if you actually do fold after betting. If you're like me and your b/f turns into a b/c more often than not, it's better to just c/c. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Nick C · #13 12-07-2006, 12:34 AM

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Yes, b/f is far better than c/c if you actually do fold after betting.

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I'm not so sure about this at all. We're up against a TAG, not some variety of predictable and easily manipulated fish.

bobhalford · #14 12-07-2006, 01:01 AM

Why not c/r and fold to a 3bet? Talk about a fancy play. Would do wonders for your table image if you got called.

27offsooot · #15 12-07-2006, 10:50 AM

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I like B/F as a "value-defense move" expecting to get called by a better hand sometimes, but also Ace high often enough. Seems less -ev than check/anything. Not sure if I like C/F or C/R 2nd. I think C/C sucks here because a bluff from his side is so rarely successful on this board (does anybody ever fold AQ in your spot? I don't think so).

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Yeah, i agree with this. I don't know why I froze up on the J and checked. Then I took a while to decide b/t a c/r and a c/f, and realized that a c/r was no longer going to be plausible after like 10 seconds, so I choose the worst possible option, c/c.

He had AJ with no diamonds, and MHWNG.

Kharlog · #16 12-07-2006, 12:47 PM

I think he has ace most of the time and he is calling down. Just valuebet river. If you get raised then it gets more complicated. Depending on specific reads, bet/call or bet/fold.

gehrig · #17 12-08-2006, 09:14 AM

b/f
c/f
c/c
b/c

holla. every time a thread in this forum is started about river play and people suggest c/c'ing a puppy dies

Flintoff · #18 12-08-2006, 09:27 AM

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I like B/F as a "value-defense move" expecting to get called by a better hand sometimes, but also Ace high often enough. Seems less -ev than check/anything. Not sure if I like C/F or C/R 2nd. I think C/C sucks here because a bluff from his side is so rarely successful on this board (does anybody ever fold AQ in your spot? I don't think so).

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Yes, b/f is far better than c/c if you actually do fold after betting. If you're like me and your b/f turns into a b/c more often than not, it's better to just c/c. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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Haha. Now THERE is a man after my own heart. I do this so often it's not funny.

gehrig · #19 12-08-2006, 09:28 AM

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Why not c/r and fold to a 3bet? Talk about a fancy play. Would do wonders for your table image if you got called.

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[img]/images/graemlins/ooo.gif[/img] WHY NOT CAP A 3BET [img]/images/graemlins/ooo.gif[/img]

[img]/images/graemlins/ooo.gif[/img] TALK ABOUT FANCY PLAY !! [img]/images/graemlins/ooo.gif[/img]

CaptainBusto · #20 12-08-2006, 10:27 AM

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b/f
c/f
c/c
b/c

holla. every time a thread in this forum is started about river play and people suggest c/c'ing a puppy dies

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why is cc so horrible here compared to bf? 1bb goes in either way and youre not gonna make him fold anything better. would you say A high has a higher chance of calling here than bluff-betting?